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Old 07-13-2008, 04:10 PM
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"We do not worship Iran, we worship Allah. For patriotism is another name for paganism. I say let this land [Iran] burn. I say let this land go up in smoke, provided Islam emerges triumphant in the rest of the world." ~~Ayatollah Khomeini.
That guy isn't in office anymore, so that's not terribly relevant. (In fact, he's quite dead.)
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That guy isn't in office anymore, so that's not terribly relevant. (In fact, he's quite dead.)
Indeed he IS dead, and I acknowledge that wholeheartedly. Although, he is their mentor...and Ayatollah Khamenini is still in office and maintains the same positions as his "master"

The Iranians are not kidding on this one.
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Indeed he IS dead, and I acknowledge that wholeheartedly. Although, he is their mentor...and Ayatollah Khamenini is still in office and maintains the same positions as his "master"

The Iranians are not kidding on this one.
No. Its the same philandering nationalist nonsense that the USSR was spouting--such things are more for the encouragement of the people than anything else. Crazy as they are, the leadership definitely does not want to die.
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No. Its the same philandering nationalist nonsense that the USSR was spouting--such things are more for the encouragement of the people than anything else. Crazy as they are, the leadership definitely does not want to die.
Yes, but they still believe even though they might be attacked they can still win...IMHO they're dumb
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Iarn fires Missles, Democrats yawn and go back to sleep.

I think I'll catch some ZZZs too, the twins still aren't sleeping through the night.
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You can't just write off a nuclear Iran with the old mutually assured destruction thing. For a couple reasons.

For one they just might be crazy enough.

Barring that they could "lose" a nuke to some very bad people. Purely accidentally of course.

They could use a nuke tactically. If Iran just nukes, say, a carrier group do you see Obama declaring the destruction of millions of Iran civilians? Nope. And they know it too.

Finally they can start getting away with much more over operations against Israel, Iraq, and other neighbors. Certainly they'd use a nuke if somebody is already coming after them like we came for Saddam. Nothing to lose. Which means unless we want to be nuked we have to take that option, and probably a few others, off the table. I consider this the most likely scenario by far and there will be much bloodshed from it.

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Iran fires Missiles, Republicans start screaming that something must be done, and go back to sitting in their recliners, expecting someone else to go do the fighting and the dying.
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Iran fires Missiles, Republicans start screaming that something must be done, and go back to sitting in their recliners, expecting someone else to go do the fighting and the dying.
true... very very true... too bad more of the war supporters don't actually enlist instead of just playing the cheerleaders we don't need...
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You can't just write off a nuclear Iran with the old mutually assured destruction thing. For a couple reasons.


They could use a nuke tactically. If Iran just nukes, say, a carrier group do you see Obama declaring the destruction of millions of Iran civilians? Nope. And they know it too.

yea but the Iranian populace aint that foolish........
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Iran fires Missiles, Republicans start screaming that something must be done, and go back to sitting in their recliners, expecting someone else to go do the fighting and the dying.


who will do the fighting?....most of the military is republican....
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