Yes, MLK was a Republican.

http://www.nationalblackrepublicans....a%20Republican

In other news, there is apparently a Black Republican magazine.

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A little background reading for anyone interested:


It goes into more detail on the site itself. Very educational.

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The majority DO NOT or it wouldn't be such a regular topic! There wouldn't be the stereotype about black kids being confused on father's day. Bill Cosby was right, Obama is right on this particular issue, but the black community will likely just write this off as his HALF WHITEYNESS coming out!

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Have you ever heard the saying "If it doesn't apply to you, don't listen. If it does, take notice?" Obama was not saying every black man is at fault. He was speaking to the community as a whole. And as someone else here said (submarine painter I think) all fathers need to step up regardless of skin color and I agree. Our society as a whole needs to take a step back and realize the future of our country belongs to our children. If we teach them tolerance and respect for their fellow man without regard to race then we put racism on its back. If we teach our children discipline and reasonable respect for authority then we put a large dent in youth crime. If we just teach our children some manners then think how much more enjoyable the day would be when a polite hello doesn't earn a billigerent f#ck you in return. His remarks were not meant as an attack but as a suggestion and its one he needs to address to a wider audience.

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[quote=SenaxFlatulus;770456]I agree with justabubba. lol, I just had too.......sorry

I couldn't agree more! Thank you for a positive yet reasoned response.

btw Welcome aboard, Yourqadesh and Rsay.

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Many years ago a book came out called, "The Bell Curve". I found myself argueing against this book in an email forum. I read it, I read two commentaries on it, and I emailed and talked to Dr. Flynn, discoverer of the Flynn effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect

He referred me to one of his books on the subject. He is one of the most noted advocated of environment vs. Heredity on the issue. The book was, "Race, IQ, and Jensen". In this book he stated, page 212, last page of chapter 5,

"For blacks with such aspirations, certain aspects of black culture act as a barrier and I doubt that they will be loathe to see them go. Historically these cultural patterns derive from racism, but they exist for all that."

While doing further research on this issue, I discovered one of the elements of black culture which may be hurting blacks, especially black men. In black culture in America, black women kill their husbands or boyfriends more often than black men kill their women. Parents are 1.5 times more likely to kill a son than a daughter, and black children are much more likely to kill the male adult in their family group than the female.

In Dr. Flynn's book he mentions research showing that black sons feel less secure and welcome in the home than black daughters. They feel insecure and unwelcome. He does not seem to have been aware of the homicide patterns in black America.

This all adds up to black cultural expectations set for men under slavery and segregation which lead to them being raised with lower expectations, and a sense of personal worthlessness. Due to this, black men do not take responsibility in the home and family as much as they need to. This in turn fulfils the negative expectations of black culture and maintains the stereotype. This originates with racism, but it is a part of black culture.

Only black people can change it. Black men do need to take more responsibility in the home and family. If they do so they will have higher self esteem and greater success. They need to rebel against the cultural expectations set for them by slavery, which survive in black culture today, and grab that responsibility that will give them self-respect and the respect of others.

Senator Obama is saying the right thing. He may be saying it just as a political attempt to move to the middle, but it is the right thing to say.

I absolutely agree with this message as well. And BB is correct----Bill Cosby has been speaking these very words for a long, long time now. He usually gets blasted by the "Let's Keep Racial Tensions Alive" crowd, namely Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. And recently Jackson said some very nasty things about Obama "talking down to blacks" on this issue. Jackson seems to think this is talking down???? That's a strange take on it, to say the least.

My only disagreement with Obama's words here is that he says more should be done for them coming from Washington. I don't know exactly what he means here---but if he's talking about better public school educations, he's going to have to do away with the teacher's unions and their lobbyists before anything gets done there. They have continually sought to keep the public school system sub-par by not wanting to be held accountable for progress. Right now, they are seeking to weaken the "No Child Left Behind" Act----through their Democrat leaders in Congress and the Senate. And Obama has even said he'd go along with these "changes." Well, as usual---he talks well, but does not deliver if he seeks to weaken this instead of making it even stronger. But he's most likely talking about "more money" which as we all know does NOT necessarily equate to better educations. More money has been tossed their way for decades---and we still don't educate our children in the public school systems properly.

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That's because any time an outsider critiques a group for things he assumes about the group without any inside knowledge or inside sympathies... he is being paternalistic.
It's also important to note that this is exactly the reason Jackson is all in a tizzy- he thinks Obama sounds paternalistic (despite not being an outsider without sympathy).

And you have noticed that Cosby takes crap for this, haven't you? It's obviously not a double standard related to race alone.
If it works for Obama it's because of HOW he spreads the message.

But nice try on dodging the fact that Obama is spreading exactly the message a lot of people seem to claim he would never spread.

But all in all, I'm actually shocked by how many anti-Obama folks actually avoided dodging it... I assumed that none of them would listen at all and would immediately go on to deflect and call Obama a "racist" or Jesse Jackson clone anyway.
I'm pleasantly surprised.

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I actually like listening to BO when he's sounding more like Cosby and less like Rev Jackson.

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