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Default Maliki's Words Misinterpreted-- Does Not Want Timeline For Withdrawal

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Bummer For Barack... Maliki's Words Misinterpreted-- Does Not Want Timeline For Withdrawal

It's too late for Obama-- His Op-Ed on withdrawing troops from Iraq was already published this morning in The New York Times. Bummer. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/14/op...prod=permalink

Democrats including Barack Obama were wrong about the Bush Surge in Iraq.
It has been a phenomenal success. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...n=1&vote=00051



Children play in the street and greet U.S. Soldiers as they pass by during a presence patrol in the Shula District, Baghdad, Iraq, July 7, 2008. The Soldiers are in Alpha Troop, 1st Squadron, 75th Cavalry, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division. Photo by Joint Combat Camera Center Iraq. (MNF-Iraq) http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?op...g2_itemId=5387

Today it was reported that Prime Minister Maliki's comments about the US withdrawing from Iraq were misinterpreted by the media.
It figures.
HotAir and the BBC reported:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/1...s-misreported/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7504571.stm

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The prime minister was widely quoted as saying that in the negotiations with the Americans on a Status of Forces Agreement to regulate the US troop presence from next year, "the direction is towards either a memorandum of understanding on their evacuation, or a memorandum of understanding on a timetable for their withdrawal".

That was the version of Mr Maliki's remarks put out in writing by his office in Baghdad.

It was widely circulated by the news media, and caught much attention, including that of Mr Obama.

There is only one problem. It is not what Mr Maliki actually said.

In an audio recording of his remarks, heard by the BBC, the prime minister did not use the word "withdrawal".

What he actually said was: "The direction is towards either a memorandum of understanding on their evacuation, or a memorandum of understanding on programming their presence."
Mr Maliki's own office had inserted the word "withdrawal" in the written version, replacing the word "presence".
So Maliki is not squeezing US troops out of Iraq after all.
Why is this not surprising?
You'd think just once in 5 years the media would screw up on the side of George Bush.
But, once again, this is not the case.
How do they do it?

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Old 07-14-2008, 06:11 PM
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You'd think just once in 5 years the media would screw up on the side of George Bush.
But, once again, this is not the case.
That's pretty much all FOX does, actually. And MSNBC and CNN, too, but they aren't as overtly proud of how quickly and enthusiastically they screw up on the side of George Bush. MSNBC and CNN just get paid to favor Bush -- one gets the impression that with FOX it's more of a religious thing.

Anyway, your post confused me a bit. Maliki didn't use the word "withdrawal" -- what about "time table" or the overall jist of "please go before my own people shoot me?"
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Mr Maliki's own office had inserted the word "withdrawal" in the written version, replacing the word "presence".
This one sentence seems to contradict the entire premise of this thread.
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I personally dont think Maliki wants the US troops to leave...his govt will have trouble lasting 5 minutes if the US isnt there to keep them in place. The current Iraqi govt derives its position via US enforcement and not by popular Iraqi support.

He is going to try and use language that makes it appear as if they are a "real govt" and not merely a puppet one which would even include some minor disagreements with the US govt on some points and making it sound like he is in favor of US troop withdrawl at some point (to appease the Iraqis who dont want to be occupied by a foreign nation and their soldiers) but of course not wording it so strongly that it would be viewed as a definitive statement.
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This one sentence seems to contradict the entire premise of this thread.
Seems? To bad you cant make an arguement off of "seems". However you can make an arguement off of "is". But "seems" doesent cut it. Facts are stubborn things arent they?
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That changes a lot!
YEAH. THE PRESS REALLY SCREWED UP ON THIS ONE. I GUESS IT GOT THEIR HOPES UP!
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yes we all can remember all of the veted, experienced generals on the ground in Iraq that were so-called misinterpreted. Throughout the nearly 6year history of Bush's war, certain EXPERIENCED generals in Iraq have spoken up against Bush's policies and what did Bush do?
He interpreted them in a way that he could fire them all, thus squandering (again) all of that military experience and knowledge that only comes with fighting previous battles. For example the first gulf war.
It takes a great amout of time to gain such experience. A resource that Bush again found expendable.

Interpretation or misinterpretation seems to be one of Bush/Repubicans tools they use to attack and discredit people. How lame is it when the Iraq president and it's citizens flat out tell the Bush administration that they want them out, but the most important thing Bush wants to relay to America is that Maliki does not want a timeline?

This all seems to be a mixup on how Bush interprets the words "GET OUT".

Interpretation is a funny thing.
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yes we all can remember all of the veted, experienced generals on the ground in Iraq that were so-called misinterpreted. Throughout the nearly 6year history of Bush's war, certain EXPERIENCED generals in Iraq have spoken up against Bush's policies and what did Bush do?
He interpreted them in a way that he could fire them all, thus squandering (again) all of that military experience and knowledge that only comes with fighting previous battles. For example the first gulf war.
It takes a great amout of time to gain such experience. A resource that Bush again found expendable.

Interpretation or misinterpretation seems to be one of Bush/Repubicans tools they use to attack and discredit people. How lame is it when the Iraq president and it's citizens flat out tell the Bush administration that they want them out, but the most important thing Bush wants to relay to America is that Maliki does not want a timeline?

This all seems to be a mixup on how Bush interprets the words "GET OUT".

Interpretation is a funny thing.
I would love to see a link on this one.
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