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BAGHDAD, July 18 -- As Sen. Barack Obama prepares for his second visit to Iraq, Iraqis are divided over his plan to withdraw U.S. combat troops in 16 months should he be elected president

Mr O, we ain't gonna go! Mr flip flop will probably change his position at least 20 more times, depending on the political wind.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...071803152.html
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BAGHDAD, July 18 -- As Sen. Barack Obama prepares for his second visit to Iraq, Iraqis are divided over his plan to withdraw U.S. combat troops in 16 months should he be elected president

Mr O, we ain't gonna go! Mr flip flop will probably change his position at least 20 more times, depending on the political wind.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...071803152.html
let's see what they said regarding our staying or leaving:
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"We hope they will stay until 2020," said Brig. Gen. Bilal al-Dayni, a commander in the southern city of Basra, where about 30,000 Iraqi soldiers patrol the streets after a major offensive in March against extremist militias.
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Supporters of anti-American Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr said it will not matter who is elected president. "U.S. foreign policy would not be changed by changing the president," said Nassar al-Rubaie, the head of Sadr's political bloc in parliament. Whether the next president is "Republican or Democrat, we completely reject the occupation under any circumstances."
any surprise that the general wants our forces to stick around another twelve years, risking their lives to fight his country's civil war?

anyone surprised that someone outside the government, who seeks to maintain his political authority in the form of a militia, whose existance is being challenged by our military, wants us gone?

so, yep, as your thread title says "Iraqis Differ on Obama's Plans"
what's your point ... that Obama will not hold firm to his position that American troops will be withdrawn. he has shown no inclination to back away from that long-held position thus far ... but i welcome you to prove me wrong that unlike mKKKain, Obama is not flip flopping here
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any surprise that the general wants our forces to stick around another twelve years, risking their lives to fight his country's civil war?

anyone surprised that someone outside the government, who seeks to maintain his political authority in the form of a militia, whose existance is being challenged by our military, wants us gone?

so, yep, as your thread title says "Iraqis Differ on Obama's Plans"
what's your point ... that Obama will not hold firm to his position that American troops will be withdrawn. he has shown no inclination to back away from that long-held position thus far ... but i welcome you to prove me wrong that unlike mKKKain, Obama is not flip flopping here
Flip flop, flip flop, this is the sound of Obama's clock. Welcome me to prove you wrong?

....well...OK, here ya go:

Prior to his Houston remarks, Obama's previous position favored an American combat troop withdrawal over a sixteen-to-eighteen-month timeframe. He has been less specific on the number and mission of any advisers he would leave behind.

Ending the war in the first year of his potential presidency, therefore, is the strongest stand Obama has taken thus far, and one he will be questioned on sharply by the Republicans and the media. As Juan Cole noted last year, the Bush-Cheney team is preparing a "poison pill" of disorder and blame for any future President contemplating an Iraq troop withdrawal.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080303/hayden
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Yep. I see yet another "change" a-coming! <G> He's all about "change," isn't he???
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BAGHDAD, July 18 -- As Sen. Barack Obama prepares for his second visit to Iraq, Iraqis are divided over his plan to withdraw U.S. combat troops in 16 months should he be elected president

Mr O, we ain't gonna go! Mr flip flop will probably change his position at least 20 more times, depending on the political wind.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...071803152.html
YOU WONT GET TOO MANY REPLYS TO THIS THREAD. I POSTED THE SAME THING HERE> Obama's Plan Scares the Hell Out Of The Iraqis!
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let's hear what maliki has to say on the matter:
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Iraq Leader Maliki Supports Obama's Withdrawal Plans

In an interview with SPIEGEL, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Barack Obama's 16 timeframe for a withdrawal from Iraq is the right one.
Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki supports US presidential candidate Barack Obama's plan to withdraw US troops from Iraq within 16 months. When asked in and interview with SPIEGEL when he thinks US troops should leave Iraq, Maliki responded "as soon as possible, as far as we are concerned." He then continued: "US presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes."
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...566841,00.html

so, it would appear this is consistent with Obama's projections

and that would make you ... what's the word ... WRONG. try again
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Then there's this:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...or-obama-plan/

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This is not the first time the White House has emailed in error. But its timing is particularly embarrassing as the Bush administration's recent agreement with al-Maliki on a "general time horizon" for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq is being cited by some as resembling Obama's proposal that U.S. forces should leave within 16 months.
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let's hear what maliki has to say on the matter:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...566841,00.html

so, it would appear this is consistent with Obama's projections

and that would make you ... what's the word ... WRONG. try again
....Is that the same Nouri al-Maliki that all the left wing loons say is a puppet president picked by Bush? Flip flop, flip flop. You guys need to make up your minds, either he is their elected president(which he is), or he is Bush's puppet, which is it?

This still doesn't answer Mr O's commitment he made to America of having our military out of Iraq by the end of 2009. I think that flip flop makes you,
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