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Old 02-21-2008, 10:35 AM
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Yeah, being in Michigan we are beginning to see the absolute absurdity of illegal pot.
Not only does it waste time, money, and prison space better used for dealing with murderers and rapists...
but now Detroit cannot hire enough police officers- because too many of the people brave or crazy enough to do it... cannot pass a drug test due to pot.

So what few police officers they have are spending too much time dealing with harmless potheads... and the size of the police force is limited by the legal standards...
I don't know about anyone else, but when I'm in Detroit it's the violent crime that scares me, possibly crimes against my car... not pot.
And I'll take a pothead officer over no officer.
Worry about drug tests after there's an adequate force.

Good lord.
pot busts ... well just about any user busts ... are easy - because the users are too fuct up to avoid capture
drug busts are the means for law enforcement to attain high numbers. what gets counted gets done
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pot busts ... well just about any user busts ... are easy - because the users are too fuct up to avoid capture
drug busts are the means for law enforcement to attain high numbers. what gets counted gets done

Not really, the whole point is that most pot users aren't all that (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up. Most user busts are on 15 year olds who are careless by nature not by usage. Then police act like it's some great feet to put a kid in the system so that the government can profit off of them for years to come. Because a juvenile in the system is never getting out, in a time of life where you are supposed to be learning from mistakes and experience these kids are locked up and severely punished for doing what everyone does.

bama and Bush both admittedly did drugs as kids and didn't get caught. Yet they both support laws that would have ruined their careers at 15 years old had they been caught kind of ironic.
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Does it ever occur to you that you could have been aborted very easily. I'm sure if you were in that situation you would have a quite different idea.
But you don't worry about that do you, you were one of the lucky ones so it doesn't matter, right?
If I were aborted, I'd be dead, so how could I have an idea on anything? I wouldn't even be aware of being aborted, just I have no memory of even being born - you have no memory of making your grand entrance through the birth canel, were you?
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k, we got off track. let's save abortion debates for the abortion page. I am from Nebraska and we cannot use the electric chair as of late. This is rediculous. They say it is not humane, well im pretty sure non of their murders were humane so why are we worrying about it.
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k, we got off track. let's save abortion debates for the abortion page. I am from Nebraska and we cannot use the electric chair as of late. This is rediculous. They say it is not humane, well im pretty sure non of their murders were humane so why are we worrying about it.
An eye for an eye eh? I don't have a problem with the death penalty, but I'd rather use whichever method would cost less taxpayer money.

Do the lawyers and injection or electric chair cost more than keeping a guy locked up for life? I'd like to know.
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Do the lawyers and injection or electric chair cost more than keeping a guy locked up for life? I'd like to know.
Apparently it costs more to keep a person locked up, if you can believe that.


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k, we got off track. let's save abortion debates for the abortion page. I am from Nebraska and we cannot use the electric chair as of late.
Don't they have an option? Injection or chair? Most choose the injection, but it's not painless, as you might believe. It's just better than getting fried, although some people put to death deserve to be fried, like rapists and whatnot.

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Are you insinuating that life imprisonment is a cruel or unusual punishment? I'm a bit lost in what point you are trying to make.
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The death penalty is a good measure to be taken with rapists, murderers, and child molesters. Do you want them escaping from prison into the local community and committing more crimes? I didn't think so. For those who believe escapes from jail are impossible/rare, take a look at this. The death penalty also serves in making an example to deter future crimes.
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The death penalty is a good measure to be taken with rapists, murderers, and child molesters. Do you want them escaping from prison into the local community and committing more crimes? I didn't think so. For those who believe escapes from jail are impossible/rare, take a look at this. The death penalty also serves in making an example to deter future crimes.
That might be a bit severe on the sex charges, dont get me wrong, I think they need to be punished, but death is a bit final for a non-murderer. On the other hand I see nothing wrong with executing a murderer. not with the chair either, just a simple gun to the head while they sleep. No Pain. Sounds pretty humane to me.
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That might be a bit severe on the sex charges, dont get me wrong, I think they need to be punished, but death is a bit final for a non-murderer. On the other hand I see nothing wrong with executing a murderer. not with the chair either, just a simple gun to the head while they sleep. No Pain. Sounds pretty humane to me.
You want a rapist to be able to get out of jail and commit the crime again?
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