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Old 03-06-2007, 08:09 AM
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The Scooter has been found guilty on four of the five felony counts. The judge is a Reagan appointee and the prosecutor a lifetime Repugnacan.
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Old 03-06-2007, 08:16 AM
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Some details:

Count #1, obstruction of justice: guilty, up to 10 years in prison

Count #2, false statements about conservations with Tim Russert: guilty.

Count #3, false statements about conversations with Time: not guilty.

Count #4, perjury related to Count #2: guilty

Count #5, perjury related to (but not limited to) Count #3: guilty

It's a little weird that he was convicted on #5 while being found not guilty on #3, but it wasn't limited to the statements involved in #3.

Total potential jail time: 30 years.

It'll be less than that, most likely. And now the question is: does he have any information that he could trade for a reduced sentence?
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Verdict will be appealed, of course.

Sentencing set for June 5.

Anyone think Bush will pardon him if the conviction is upheld?
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A total miscarriage of justice and it WILL be appealed. This jury was confused and did NOT even understand the charges; nor did they understand what constitutes "reasonable doubt." THOSE questions they asked will be perfect ground for an appeal. Basically, they spent 10 days TRYING HARD to find some way they could find him guilty. I said from Day One this is Washington D.C. where most, if not all, the jury members will be Democrats and that Libby could not get a fair trial there. And he obviously did not.

And please don't pull the "Republican" defense. This prosecutor is someone who wanted to JUSTIFY in some way the money he wasted on this case and that's the ONLY reason he went after Libby on something as insignificant as who he said what to whom and in what order. Fitzgerald KNEW from Day One that "NO LAW WAS BROKEN" and should have not even gone forward with this case PERIOD. That's prosecutorial misconduct, IMHO.
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Verdict will be appealed, of course.

Sentencing set for June 5.

Anyone think Bush will pardon him if the conviction is upheld?

I would certainly hope so.
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Some details:

Count #1, obstruction of justice: guilty, up to 10 years in prison

Count #2, false statements about conservations with Tim Russert: guilty.

Count #3, false statements about conversations with Time: not guilty.

Count #4, perjury related to Count #2: guilty

Count #5, perjury related to (but not limited to) Count #3: guilty

It's a little weird that he was convicted on #5 while being found not guilty on #3, but it wasn't limited to the statements involved in #3.

Total potential jail time: 30 years.

It'll be less than that, most likely. And now the question is: does he have any information that he could trade for a reduced sentence?
What in the world kind of information could he possibly have? There was NO LAW broken. The prosecutor knew from Day ONE who first leaked the name----and didn't indict him BECAUSE NO LAW WAS BROKEN. The VP's office had every right to be discussing these people who had LIED about them.
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What in the world kind of information could he possibly have?
No idea. But if there is any, we'll find out reasonably soon. Assuming the appeal fails and he doesn't get a pardon promise.
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What in the world kind of information could he possibly have?
No idea. But if there is any, we'll find out reasonably soon. Assuming the appeal fails and he doesn't get a pardon promise.
So, IF there's nothing else coming from Libby soon---you will admit that there is nothing else there and this has all been a politcal sham? Cause you can't have it both ways. IF he does not come out with something else----then we can all KNOW that there was never anything else.

BTW, the defense just said there would be a request for a NEW TRIAL. Meaning, they are going to suggest this jury was hopelessly confused. And there is certainly evidence to support that. IF a new trial is refused, they will appeal.
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So, IF there's nothing else coming from Libby soon---you will admit that there is nothing else there and this has all been a politcal sham?
Hey, I haven't been calling for Libby's head. I'm just observing here.

But if Libby doesn't have enough to cut a deal with Fitzgerald, that doesn't mean that it was all a political sham. It just means that he didn't have anything worth trading -- which means evidence that Fitz thought could support a "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard.

If the verdict is upheld, will you admit that Libby did something wrong?

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BTW, the defense just said there would be a request for a NEW TRIAL. Meaning, they are going to suggest this jury was hopelessly confused. And there is certainly evidence to support that. IF a new trial is refused, they will appeal.
That's the way it works.
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