USA law only applies within the territories of the United States of America, not in any other country outside the USA.

Attn: US Supreme Court , You are not the World's Supreme Court.

That is all, and it is that simple to understand.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2982640.ece

BTW, CIA personel are wanted in Italy for kidnapping. When can the Italian government expect these upstanding human beingsto be extradited back to Italy?

There are those of us in the U.S. that realize our government (and CIA) are on the wrong track:

http://www.politicalforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=35791

http://www.ronpaul2008.com

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Eiregosodden: Neither you, nor the UK, nor any other foreigner is an arbiter of US law. US law is made by the US congress, and interpreted by the US Supreme court. The US is not on this planet to make US law appetizing to euroweenies.

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Blade: "more educated and literate people than Justabubba"

Justabubba: "that would include everyone"

http://politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=27847

You (*)(*)(*)(*) foriegners keep your laws in your own backward ass country.

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"Better to die on you feet than live on your knees" - Emilio Zapata

Well, you know, it is true, that in America here, we do have plenty of characters like Blade.

You know, they wanna make these wild EDIT unsupportable assertions in their rhetoric, and then on top of that mis-shapen "logic", they wanna do whatever they can to exercise some form of "cowboy diplomacy", just to let you know that you're kinda on the bottom of the heap, kinda thing.....



But not to worry, not "all" Americans are like that - although, in a somewhat self-effacing-humorous kind of way, I could probably point you to several "groups" of 'Mericans that are kinda "significant" in that regard...

So, um.... just in case anyone's curious, the limits and boundaries of US law are defined in..... you guessed it! The one and only contract "we" have, which is the US Constitution.

There, it is clearly defined, exactly "who" US law applies to, and under what circumstances.

So, you know.... if Blade were the arbiter of US law, we'd all be in deep doo-doo..... then all you "Euro-weenies" would be even more aghast "at us" than you already are.....

Well, ya know, it probably has something to do with being "cosmopolitan" or something - or maybe at least a tiny bit "interested" or something - you know, I get a kick out of these guys that have never been out of Texas their whole lives, and then they wanna "dictate terms" to the Euro-weenies and everyone else on the planet..... you know, and meanwhile, guys like me, who get around a little (let's see, in the last year or so I've been touring with some musical folks, we've been all over the Orient, Australia, Latin America, Europe, .... just about the only place we "haven't" been is Africa.... oh yeah, and northwest Pakistan, we kinda wanted to avoid that latter kinda thing..... ) -

And you know, it's like, if you travel, you get a lot of "input", right? Most places, they kinda take one look at you and figure out you're an American, and then you become a "curiosity", and maybe lately, depending on where you are, some element of ridicule and even hatred enters into the picture....

You know, and like, five years ago I'd stroll down the Limmat in Zurich, and these Swiss early-20's men (mostly men, some chicks, you know, they'd be out jogging or just strolling or something), would stop and start asking questions. "So, like, do you like Clinton better than Reagan? Is that the direction America is going in, now?" You know, they'd be like, "genuinely interested" in American politics, and what "I personally", in whatever role as a "representative of the US" - happened to think about politics.

But now, it's like, slightly different. A lot of the time, people don't really "ask questions" anymore.... well, I mean, most of 'em do, but there's this kinda underlying (unspoken, usually) "tone" or "demeanor" in the approach - you know, it's like, "OH... you're an American.... oh WELL, yeah, you and that George Bush.... well, so what do you think of that arsehowl anyway?".... You know, and it kinda goes like that. Most everywhere, it's like that. Israel may be the one exception, although there's plenty of Bush-haters over there too. But generally the Israelis don't seem to mind Bushie so much. Everyone else in the world, seems to hate his guts.

So, well.... you can kinda see the way politics is going in this country, I mean, you guys get enough of it on the BBC and whatnot, right? It's like, Bush this and Clinton that, and you kinda end up asking yourself, "so who's in charge, anyway?".... And like, you know, it's entirely true that Bushie and his people, have played some pretty hardball politics with our allies here lately, I mean, the SWIFT banking thing stands out as the epitome and the perfect example of that particular piece, and I mean... you know, I wrote all my Senators about that one, every single one of 'em, and I'm sure a whole lot of other Americans did too, you know....

And all I mean to say, is that there are some of us who value our allies, even if Blade isn't one of 'em, and even if our own freakin' President (that miserable bastid) isn't one of 'em.....

So, all I can tell you is, you guys have some freinds over here, and I know for sure that I've got some friends over your way too, so let's just stick together, and..... you know, just ignore these idiots that are trying to drive a wedge between us. 'Kay?

So, basically you think a person should be able to commit a crime....even a terrorist crime.....and flee to another country and just be left alone, eh?

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Why do you value our "allies"? Give me your list of what our "allies" have done for us in the last 60 years.

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Blade: "more educated and literate people than Justabubba"

Justabubba: "that would include everyone"

http://politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=27847

EDIT with us, and you're dead meat. What part don't you get?

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Blade: "more educated and literate people than Justabubba"

Justabubba: "that would include everyone"

http://politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=27847

That part I "get" - I mean, I'm down with that, right?

Only, Blade, no one among our allies, has really EDIT with us, have they?

I mean, those Islamist dudes, they mess with us, but the Brits and Eires and Scots and all the rest of those Euro-Weenies, are generally on our good side, right?

I mean, you ask me, what have they done to help us, and I could point out plenty. For one thing, they host a lot of our nuclear weapons, on their soil and territory. So I mean, that right there, oughta count for a lot, right? And then, you know, the Brits have been instrumental in Iraq, in fact, they're the only ones that have really succeeded there (so far) - .... and I mean, you know, that's just "in the last 30 days" or whatever, I mean, I could dig back five, ten, twenty, thirty, forty, years.... however many you want.

But Blade, here's the part you need to understand - it's the "on the other hand" part.

'Cause on the other hand, our President, has been making a total mockery of the relationship between the US and its allies. I mean, are you familiar with the details of what happened in the SWIFT banking scandal? That thing is right now before the World Court in the Hague, and all the respective governments, including those of the Euro-Weenies individually and collectively, are doing their best to hush it up, 'cause it's just too freakin' embarrassing.

What happened in a nutshell is, that our own illustrious President, directed our State Department (NOT our CIA, or any other clandestine agency) to "co-opt" foreign banking executives, to "voluntarily" provide sensitive personal information to the United States government, in direct contravention of the local and national laws in the nations in which they were citizens, lived, and did business.

That, is essentially, co-opting our allies to be spies fo the US, and I mean, you know, once again, that's something you gotta do carefully, right? That's an ace in your deck, that you keep for when you really need it, not something you toss out whenever you want to build a terrorist watch list. That would be like using a fake passport, or a fake credit card, or something - every time you do it, it's a risk, and so you only do it when you really need to, and then you're for sure aren't stupid enough to do it through the god(*)(*)(*)(*) State Department, know what I'm sayin'?

So I mean, crap like that, is noticeable to our Euro-Weenie allies, right?

You know, it's like, we're gonna waltz right into their country and strong-arm their citizens into doing our dirty work, just 'cause we don't have the patience to go through the correct diplomatic channels or whatever - and I mean, same with the Italians, right? We're just gonna waltz right into their country and snatch someone off their streets, without telling anyone - without informing anyone in their government, without getting the blessing of their local police department or whatever (who, I'm sure, would like nothing better than to see a guy like that removed from the streets, so I mean, all that is, is a question of waiting long enough for the bureaucrats to say "yes", right?) -

So I mean, who the hell does this guy Bushie think he is, tramping on other peoples' sovereignty like that? Who does he think he is, God or someone? Something "more than" the President of the United States, which by the way is all the way across there, on the other side of the pond....

See what I'm sayin?

The US doesn't have allies in western europe - grow up.

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Blade: "more educated and literate people than Justabubba"

Justabubba: "that would include everyone"

http://politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=27847