Thread: Defining Natural Born Citizen

This one looks like it might move the ball forward:

A hearing has been scheduled in a Florida court to allow attorneys representing the White House to support their claim that the term “natural born citizen” in the U.S. Constitution means something other than the offspring of two American citizens.

Judge Terry Lewis in Leon County has set a hearing for June 18 to consider arguments from both sides of a challenge to Obama’s name on the 2012 state election ballot.

Judge Lewis is asking the White House for a definition rather than a piece of physical evidence. Every judge, and probably every American, already heard the definition on the other side. If Hussein’s lawyers respond it will be a big step toward moving from a state court to a federal court; ultimately ending with the SCOTUS ruling definitively one way or the other. Apparently, Minor v. Happersett is unclear:

Klayman had cited the U.S. Supreme Court case Minor v. Happersett from 1875.

Lewis ordered further briefing on the issue before the hearing.

The definition of the term is critical. Such a step has not been reached in any of the more than 100 legal cases that have been brought over Obama’s eligibility since before his election in 2008.

And this:

The Minor v. Happersett ruling defines “natural born citizen” as the offspring of two U.S. citizens.

But since the term is not defined in the Constitution, there are many who equate being a “citizen” or a “native-born citizen” with being a “natural born citizen.”

Bush v. Gore judge: Your evidence, Mr. Obama?
Schedules hearing on what precedent White House has on 'natural born citizen'
Published: 10 hours ago
by BOB UNRUH

http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/bush-v-go...ence-mr-obama/

Frankly, I see no reason for Hussein to respond. Why should he? unless he recently discovered a magical argument that makes his definition of natural born citizen a sure winner.

Mark June 18 on your calendar.

obama's lawyers will not show, and you birthers will once again lose to an empty chair.


lol, birthers.

Originally Posted by Flanders

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Frankly, I see no reason for Hussein to respond. Why should he? unless he recently discovered a magical argument that makes his definition of natural born citizen a sure winner.

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Ankeny v. Daniels

Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are "natural born Citizens" for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.

Birthers had their choice to appeal Ankeny v Daniels but declined to. The last thing Birthers want is for this to go to the Supreme Court and have them actually laugh their two citizen parent idiocy out of the building.

I will also note that courts have been referring to Ankeny v. Daniels when slapping down Birthers. Apparently WND has never heard of the decision.

By the way, since the only source is WND and their apparent source is the Birther attorney.....can pretty much count on what WND said the judge said to be what would charitably be called 'biased'.

Usually WND version is like a weatherman predicting a hurricane when the actual forecast is mild and breezy.

Originally Posted by SFJEFF

By the way, since the only source is WND and their apparent source is the Birther attorney.....can pretty much count on what WND said the judge said to be what would charitably be called 'biased'.

Usually WND version is like a weatherman predicting a hurricane when the actual forecast is mild and breezy.

To SFJEFF: See #5 permalink in this thread:

Public Enemies #1, #2, #3 and so on

Originally Posted by Flanders

This one looks like it might move the ball forward:

LOL... A person almost has to admire the birthers' ability to believe, every single time, that they're going to win, in the face of such utter and complete fail.

Originally Posted by BullsLawDan

LOL... A person almost has to admire the birthers' ability to believe, every single time, that they're going to win, in the face of such utter and complete fail.

To BullsLawDan: Aside from Judge Lewis:

Lewis ordered further briefing on the issue before the hearing.

The definition of the term is critical. Such a step has not been reached in any of the more than 100 legal cases that have been brought over Obama’s eligibility since before his election in 2008.

there is this:

The U.S. Supreme Court justices may be trying to avoid the eligibility issue, as Justice Clarence Thomas apparently confirmed. But no matter, try as they might, it appears that it’s not going away.

The newest case to be scheduled for conference before the high court is Alan Keyes and Wiley Drake v. Obama. The case was launched on the day of Obama’s inauguration in 2009 and has been advancing ever since.

How long can Supremes avoid eligibility?
Newest challenge set for conference in days
Published: 12 hours ago
by BOB UNRUH

http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/how-long-...d-eligibility/

A person almost has to admire ostriches who think they’ve already won in spite of the challenges that just keep coming.

Originally Posted by Flanders

To BullsLawDan: Aside from Judge Lewis: ]

That is the quote from the Birther attorney Klayman. So far we haven't seen anything except what Klayman says.....so there is a reasonable assumption that this is being viewed through Birther glasses and nothing more.



And the other is a quote from WND about another Supreme Court case that will get dismissed- like every single one that has happened before.

Birthers lol

Getting all of their news from WND!

The following judges have heard cases challenging the presidential eligibility of Barack Obama on the basis of his father’s citizenship. They have said in their decisions that the parents’ citizenship is not a requirement or affirmed a lower court decision to that effect. No judge has said otherwise.

Jeff S. Masin – Administrative Law Judge, New Jersey
Clarkson S. Fisher – Superior Court Judge, Appeals Division, New Jersey
Linda G. Baxter – Superior Court Judge, Appeals Division, New Jersey
Philip S. Carchman – Superior Court Judge, Appeals Division, New Jersey
John A. Gibney, Jr. – US Federal District Judge, Virginia
Elaine B. Brown – Indiana Court of Appeals
Terry A. Crone – Indiana Court of Appeals
Judge May – Indiana Court of Appeals
Michael Malihi – Administrative Law Judge, Georgia
Arthur Schack – Superior Court Judge, New York
Richard E. Gordon – Superior Court Judge, Arizona

The Original Birther is none other than Hillary Clinton

Stick that in your birther rants against birther's!!