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  1. Default Why Is America's Prisons Full?

    Because we pass laws against stuff, that should be common decency

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...d-student.html

    Teacher,34, female, married 10 years, two kids.

    Gets stupid, and starts doing the vertical nasty rub with a high school student, 18.

    She gets arrested.

    Listen, the student is 18.

    In Texas, if you are a teacher, it against the law, to date your student, of any age.

    She is looking at time in prison.

    Is this a good law?

    We have more people in prison, than any other country in the world. Millions of people in jail. Now we are jailing them for falling in love?

    The teacher, is a scoundrel, granted, but no one from Enron is in jail. Clinton, doing the same thing in the White House, is not in jail.

    As a government, we need to get out of the adult bedrooms, and leave people to do what they want to do, and stay out of their private lives.

    While she is in jail, we the tax payers, will be purchasing food stamps for her kids, and paying their rent.
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    I am sorry, I do not quite understand what you are saying. America's prisons are not particularly full — at least not compared to countries such as Brazil or Mexico.
    http://www.time.com/time/video/playe...916484,00.html

    But yes, if you want to compare America to most European countries, or to Australia, American prisons are a horrible place.
    http://www.stateoftheusa.org/content...-inmates-s.php
    http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/6...-prison-rapes/

    Take a look at the demographics of the prison population. Different populations of humans are like different breeds of dogs, they have significantly different behavioural tendancies. The other problem is higher levels of poverty in the USA, and the higher cost of living in many cities.

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    I'd be more upset at the repeat violent felons who are not in prison or not being placed on the end of a rope.

    The teacher should be booted, but a local jury should decide her fate.
    "Real life requires individual accoutability and merit." Unknown who was not a socialist

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    Quote Originally Posted by ar10 View Post
    Because we pass laws against stuff, that should be common decency

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...d-student.html

    Teacher,34, female, married 10 years, two kids.

    Gets stupid, and starts doing the vertical nasty rub with a high school student, 18.

    She gets arrested.

    Listen, the student is 18.

    In Texas, if you are a teacher, it against the law, to date your student, of any age.

    She is looking at time in prison.

    Is this a good law?

    We have more people in prison, than any other country in the world. Millions of people in jail. Now we are jailing them for falling in love?

    The teacher, is a scoundrel, granted, but no one from Enron is in jail. Clinton, doing the same thing in the White House, is not in jail.

    As a government, we need to get out of the adult bedrooms, and leave people to do what they want to do, and stay out of their private lives.

    While she is in jail, we the tax payers, will be purchasing food stamps for her kids, and paying their rent.
    Are there video's of said 'vertical rubbing'?

    I would have to watch this evidence for about 10-15 minutes in private to make a decision.

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ar10 View Post
    Because we pass laws against stuff, that should be common decency

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...d-student.html

    Teacher,34, female, married 10 years, two kids.

    Gets stupid, and starts doing the vertical nasty rub with a high school student, 18.

    She gets arrested.

    Listen, the student is 18.

    In Texas, if you are a teacher, it against the law, to date your student, of any age.

    She is looking at time in prison.

    Is this a good law?

    We have more people in prison, than any other country in the world. Millions of people in jail. Now we are jailing them for falling in love?

    The teacher, is a scoundrel, granted, but no one from Enron is in jail. Clinton, doing the same thing in the White House, is not in jail.

    As a government, we need to get out of the adult bedrooms, and leave people to do what they want to do, and stay out of their private lives.

    While she is in jail, we the tax payers, will be purchasing food stamps for her kids, and paying their rent.
    yes, parents should not have to worry that teachers will be hitting on their students, it's abuse of a position of authority

    our jails are crowded because of the war on drugs, they will probably let this teacher out and put her on a list as they do with many predators


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    ar10,

    Many of the prisons in the United States are indeed over-crowded.
    Some are not. But most are.
    I have studied it, and I believe that the number one reason so many people end up in prison is because they are not terribly smart, and they do stupid things.
    (That was what is known as a blinding flash of the obvious.)

    It doesn't matter what the age or gender of the teacher, and the age or gender of the student.
    A teacher has a responsibility to teach, instruct, guide, and help to advance the intellectual skills, knowledge, and abilities of their students. In accordance with the curriculum and the guidance and laws of the State and the school district.
    Whenever a teacher chooses to ignore that responsibility, and instead, chooses to (*)(*)(*)(*) (or otherwise engage in sexual activities with) their young students, then they have violated a trust.

    If a military Drill Sergeant or Commander or Executive Officer (given the responsibility for training young recruits) chooses to instead have sex with their recruits, what would you have to say about that?
    Is that any less of a crime, in your opinion?
    Or is that okay?

    How about a prison guard, or the staff or the Warden?
    Is it okay for them to (*)(*)(*)(*) the inmates?

    Before you pull the trigger on your response, please pause to run your posting thru your computer's SpellCheck or Grammar Check.
    The reason I advise that is simple; the title of this thread is a grammatical abomination.
    And I have reviewed a few of your postings on this web forum, and though your heart is certainly in the right place, you do have a habit of sabotaging your credibility by committing egregious spelling, capitalization, and grammatical errors.

    Thanks, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ar10 View Post
    Why Is America's Prisons Full?
    American prisons are not full; they're overflowing !

    http://www.economist.com/node/14222337
    Last edited by Anders Hoveland; Aug 13 2012 at 10:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland View Post
    I am sorry, I do not quite understand what you are saying. America's prisons are not particularly full — at least not compared to countries such as Brazil or Mexico.
    http://www.time.com/time/video/playe...916484,00.html

    But yes, if you want to compare America to most European countries, or to Australia, American prisons are a horrible place.
    http://www.stateoftheusa.org/content...-inmates-s.php
    http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/6...-prison-rapes/

    Take a look at the demographics of the prison population. Different populations of humans are like different breeds of dogs, they have significantly different behavioural tendancies. The other problem is higher levels of poverty in the USA, and the higher cost of living in many cities.


    http://www.kpcnews.com/index.php?opt...view&Itemid=62

    U.S. leads world in imprisonment
    Sunday, August 05, 2012, 12:00am
    More people in the U.S. are in prison than anywhere else in the world.

    On Dec. 31, 2010, according to the U.S. Bureau of Justice, the U.S. had 2,266,832 people in prison. The U.S. incarceration rate is 730 per 100,000 of national population — up from a rate of 501 in 1992.

    Russia’s rate is 511. Cuba’s is 510. Iran’s is 333.

    According to prisonstudies.org, the top three nations for total number of prisoners are the U.S., China and Russia.

    Canada has seen a decrease in its incarceration rate from 123 in 1992 to 117 in 2010. Germany’s rate of 71 in 1992 rose to 83 in 2010 (27 percent are foreign prisoners).

    Why are we the world leaders in imprisonment? Is it our violence? Our laws? Our for-profit prisons? Privatization is not necessarily bad, but we don’t want to see the profit of individual companies affecting policy.

    According to The Associated Press, the U.S. is locking up more illegal immigrants, increasing profits for the nation’s largest prison companies. In the next few years government plans call for new facilities to house the 400,000 immigrants detained annually.

    An Associated Press review shows that businesses have spent tens of millions of dollars lobbying lawmakers and contributing to campaigns.

    Indiana has two correctional facilities run by a for-profit company, The GEO Group: New Castle with 2,680 inmates and Plainfield’s Short Term Offender Program.

    According to a report released in June by the Pew Center on States, criminal justice policy in the U.S. has been shaped by the belief that the best way to protect the public was to put more people in prison and lengthen prison terms. Indiana was one of 10 states that didn’t report the data Pew needed so it is not included in the analysis, said Stephanie Bosh, Pew communications manager.

    Prisoners released in 2009 served an average of nine additional months in custody, or 36 percent longer, than offenders released in 1990.

    Drug offenders served 36 percent longer in 2009 than those released in 1990, while violent offenders served 37 percent longer.


    Also;
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/wo....12253738.html

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    casualties of the war on drugs

    sadly this is why they created a list of sexual offenders as a alternative to prison time
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    belief is what is important, not so much what you believe, for instance, an ordinary sugar pill without belief helps no one, but with belief it can cure your ills and it can be quite the amazing little pill - the magic really comes from within

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreshAir View Post
    casualties of the war on drugs

    sadly this is why they created a list of sexual offenders as a alternative to prison time
    And it's crazy...in some states one can get a card and legally buy and smoke the best marijuana grown...but in other states you go to jail and have your life ruined.

    No one is in favor of people who commit sex crimes, obviously, but the politicians want to pose for the public and appear tough on crime so they make ridiculous sex offender laws...peeing in public can get you convicted of a felony and labeled a "sex offender" for life.

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