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Old 06-14-2008, 11:18 AM
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The overwhelming media response to recent remarks by Senator Trent Lott shows that the nation remains incredibly sensitive about matters of race, despite the outward progress of the last 40 years. A nation that once prided itself on a sense of rugged individualism has become uncomfortably obsessed with racial group identities.

In the aftermath of the Lott debacle, we must not allow the term "states’ rights" to be smeared and distorted into code words for segregationist policies or racism. States’ rights simply means the individual states should retain authority over all matters not expressly delegated to the federal government in Article I of the Constitution. Most of the worst excesses of big government can be traced to a disregard for states’ rights, which means a disregard for the Ninth and Tenth amendments. The real reason liberals hate the concept of states’ right has nothing to do with racism, but rather reflects a hostility toward anything that would act as a limit on the power of the federal government.

Yet it is the federal government more than anything else that divides us along race, class, religion, and gender lines. The federal government, through its taxes, restrictive regulations, corporate subsidies, racial set-asides, and welfare programs, plays far too large a role in determining who succeeds and who fails in our society. This government "benevolence" crowds out genuine goodwill between men by institutionalizing group thinking, thus making each group suspicious that others are receiving more of the government loot. Americans know that factors other than merit in the free market often play a part in the success of some, and this leads to resentment and hostility between us.

Still, the left argues that stringent federal laws are needed to combat racism, always implying of course that southern states are full of bigoted rednecks who would oppress minorities if not for the watchful eye of Washington. They ignore, however, the incredible divisiveness created by their collectivist big-government policies.

Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans only as members of groups and never as individuals. Racists believe that all individual who share superficial physical characteristics are alike; as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called "diversity" actually perpetuate racism. Their intense focus on race is inherently racist, because it views individuals only as members of racial groups.

Conservatives and libertarians should fight back and challenge the myth that collectivist liberals care more about racism. Modern liberalism, however well intentioned, is a byproduct of the same collectivist thinking that characterizes racism. The continued insistence on group thinking only inflames racial tensions.

The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity. In a free market, businesses that discriminate lose customers, goodwill, and valuable employees – while rational businesses flourish by choosing the most qualified employees and selling to all willing buyers. More importantly, in a free society every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality. This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Rather than looking to government to correct what is essentially a sin of the heart, we should understand that reducing racism requires a shift from group thinking to an emphasis on individualism.
Should we not focus on the content of an individual's character?
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Should we not focus on the content of an individual's character?
that would be too logical... which is asking too much here.
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that would be too logical... which is asking too much here.
no it is not . I ask that we get along for my grandchildrens sake.
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no it is not . I ask that we get along for my grandchildrens sake.
Don't worry, hopefully racism will die in the free market of ideas. Nobody can convince more people into their ridiculous notions than these people. (See picture)



Would you listen to these people?
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With the millions of people you will come near in your lifetime the statistics will become more real.
No they won't. Because the statistics are based on murder rates that are so low for each race that it makes no rational sense to consider race when considering one's likelihood of being a murderer.

There is no rational reason to think that a black person walking down the street is a murderer, because 99.99998% of blacks aren't murderers. Therefore, it makes no sense to take race into account when developing your plan for avoiding murderers.

The fact that an even more microscopic percentage of whites are murderers doesn't change that.
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I think, you far ancestors made a BIG mistake when brought black people to American soil. Nowadays, this is a karma of white Americans. So, it's normal.
It's usually black on black crime though, so karma doesn't make sense here.
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Senator Barack Obama said in his memoir, The Audacity of Hope, "The arguments of liberals are more often grounded in reason and fact." Yet he also claimed that to fear a black person on the street more than a white person is a racial "stereotype", "bred" into us.

To the contrary, such a fear is actually "grounded in reason and fact." When the numbers are crunched, a black person is almost six times more likely than a white person to be a murderer.

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The statistics are based on police numbers, which are based on convictions. Conviction data assumes all murderers are caught, prosecuted and convicted correctly.
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The statistics are based on police numbers, which are based on convictions. Conviction data assumes all murderers are caught, prosecuted and convicted correctly.
Right. In reality there are plenty of blacks that don't get caught so the disparity in the numbers is likely higher than 6 times as originally reported.
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When the numbers are crunched, a black person is almost six times more likely than a white person to be a murderer.
in the days of slavery, whites killed blacks more frequently than blacks kill today. this is perhaps simply a backlash.
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