Blacks in US 6 Times more likely to Commit Murder - Page 2

PatriotNews · #11 (**permalink**) 03-24-2008, 07:58 PM

Look, why don't we all just agree to stop murdering?

Or how about this idea for a death penalty deterent, give the offender the death penalty within one week of sentencing.

raytri · #12 (**permalink**) 03-24-2008, 08:24 PM

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Or how about this idea for a death penalty deterent, give the offender the death penalty within one week of sentencing.

The minute you demonstrate that the justice system is infallible, I'll agree.

BillyBob · #13 (**permalink**) 03-25-2008, 04:17 AM

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If you're saying that "blacks do this" and skin color is the operative variable, then it's about race, whether you say so or not.

No, it could just as easily be about culture. There is a 'black culture' in America.

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If it's just economics, then you'd say "poor people." If it's drug addicts, you'd say "drug addicts." If it's high-school dropouts, you'd say "high-school dropouts."

See above.

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Oh, c'mon. Now you're just trolling.

Or making a joke.

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And saying everyone has access to work is simply wrong --

Yet there are jobs available right now.

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the fact that 5% unemployment is considered "full employment" shows that.

It shows that 5% of the population refuses to work.

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Plus such a glib line ignores both the quality and pay of such work, and other factors -- like disabilities or educational limitations -- that can put many jobs out of reach.

Hey, I never suggested that everyone has a shot at being the CEO of Exxon. Some people might have to lower their expectations a bit.

junjobx2199 · #14 (**permalink**) 03-25-2008, 04:36 AM

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Senator Barack Obama said in his memoir, The Audacity of Hope, "The arguments of liberals are more often grounded in reason and fact." Yet he also claimed that to fear a black person on the street more than a white person is a racial "stereotype", "bred" into us.

To the contrary, such a fear is actually "grounded in reason and fact." When the numbers are crunched, a black person is almost six times more likely than a white person to be a murderer.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/...ed_reason.html

So you agree with his assesment!

BillyBob · #15 (**permalink**) 03-25-2008, 04:42 AM

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So you agree with his assesment!

Which one??

SpankyTheWhale · #16 (**permalink**) 03-29-2008, 08:11 AM

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I'd have to do some math to be precise, but a flaw in that argument is that the vast majority of black crime is black-on-black, and the vast majority of white crime is white-on-white.

So a white person, acting rationally, should fear a white person more than a black person.

A black person, acting rationally, should fear a black person more than a white person.

Of course, that assumes that acting on a racial basis makes sense in the first place. Which it doesn't. As your link admits, murder rates among both blacks and whites are vanishingly low (5 murderers per 100,000 people). So it makes no sense to base your (re)actions on skin color, because murderers are not representative of their skin color.

That is only because black people tend to live in the same places that other black people live, and white people tend to live in the same places that other white people live. So when a crime happens, in white communities (almost by identity), white people are going to be both the victims and the perpetrators, but in black communities, black people are going to be both victims and perpetrators.

The black-on-black and white-on-white statistics don't mean that blacks seek out blacks more than whites. If a white person is in a black criminal's domain, he is just as likely, or more (invasion of "territory") to get a cap in his rump. Probably the same with blacks in white crime territories.

Taomon · #17 (**permalink**) 03-29-2008, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BillyBob

Senator Barack Obama said in his memoir, The Audacity of Hope, "The arguments of liberals are more often grounded in reason and fact." Yet he also claimed that to fear a black person on the street more than a white person is a racial "stereotype", "bred" into us.

To the contrary, such a fear is actually "grounded in reason and fact." When the numbers are crunched, a black person is almost six times more likely than a white person to be a murderer.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/...ed_reason.html

And why is that? Poverty, bigotry, inequality. These things, compounded by generations, bred the circumstances that we see today.

BillyBob · #18 (**permalink**) 03-29-2008, 08:30 AM

Blacks are about 25 times more likely to murder a white than the other way around! [when adjusted for population percentages]

2005 Department of Justice Statistics:

black on white murders- 17.7%

white on blacks murders- 4.5%

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicid...relracetab.htm

BillyBob · #19 (**permalink**) 03-29-2008, 08:34 AM

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And why is that? Poverty,

Any able-bodies US citizen living in poverty does so by choice.

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bigotry,

Yes, blacks hate whites. I guess that is why they are 25 times more likely top murder a white than the other way around.

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inequality.

All US citizens share the same rights.

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These things, compounded by generations, bred the circumstances that we see today.

I don't buy it, but you are more than welcome to submit your evidence.

SpankyTheWhale · #20 (**permalink**) 03-29-2008, 08:54 AM

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And why is that? Poverty, bigotry, inequality. These things, compounded by generations, bred the circumstances that we see today.

They could be alleviated by generations if those generations found understanding and gave up the fight.

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