my school was much stricter. transitions are very important.

some of the other schools may be using sliding scales to get a majority of their children to graduate.

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Don't confuse me with the facts.

I don't want you to think that I don't respect the authority of the "If...then" statement. I'm just saying that I think the word "then" is optional.

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the authority is very important. the authority is both righteous and strong.

then you are rebelling against the authority. this only leads to an inevitable path of licentiousness.

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Don't confuse me with the facts.

But I have a license for licentiousness.

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Which all leads back to personal accountability. If the individual's income is not enough to provide for children then he/she shouldn't have any. This is not the middle ages. It is quite easy to prevent pregnancy. This is yet another example of making excuses for people. And yet another advantage of waiting to produce children until you have adequate income to support them is the time it frees up to further educate oneself to improve ones income to better provide for ones future offspring. Its all a vicious cycle. It just depends which way you want to spin the merry-go-round.

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Ignorance is treatable. Stupidity ain't.

"The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." ---Albert Einstien

[quote=SenaxFlatulus;770456]I agree with justabubba. lol, I just had too.......sorry

I agree. They shouldn't have kids.

Read the argument that I was posting the data for. I beat that guy into the ground with fact. It has nothing to do with what I think....just facts. He made a claim, and it was wrong.


If you'd like to discuss kid licensing, start a new thread, I think it's a great idea.

Have you seen the movie "Idiocracy"? It kinda supports your argument

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"Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of growth"
"Too often we... enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."
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Knight Errant of the Simian Order
Truth - Justice - Comedy

I have not seen Idiocracy and I am not sure where you are going with the kid licensing thing.

The point (off topic thoough it may be) I was getting at is I think we as a society make too many excuses for people these days. I mean, this country has a lot of faults, and yeah there is still racism(practiced by all races) but bottom line----there is no other country with more or better opportunities to succeed for anyone regardless of skin color.

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I'm a Tarte, What! You want some of this?
Ignorance is treatable. Stupidity ain't.

"The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." ---Albert Einstien

[quote=SenaxFlatulus;770456]I agree with justabubba. lol, I just had too.......sorry

The kid licensing thing was based on your profession of when and why people should have kids....you were treading the ridge of a slippery slope of regulating reproduction...."kid licensing" was a summary concept of that slippery slope.


I'm not making excuses. I'm debating the statistics in the original post, and follow-up generalzations made by others: Black people commit more crime and choose to be poor - even though some claim they aren't really poor if they make minimum wage......


So, to get back to what you are saying.

Hypothetically, lets say there is mass epiphany accross the country, and everyone, I mean everyone, actually decides to go to college and earn a good degree so they can make good money...

1) Is there enough capacity int he education system for the entire population?
2) Are they enough professional jobs in this country to employ all of those people earning degrees?

The answer to both questions is "no". There is only capacity for a portion of society to succeed at that level.

That's not an excuse, but what it shows is this is a society of haves and have-nots. It has to be that way. What person with a college degree is going to make my 99-cent tacos for lunch?

By necessity, this country needs poor people. By limits in our capacity to promote through the informal classes, there will always be poor people.

So now the real questions begin: Do the acestors of slaves, and the children of people who actually lived through the racism in this country really chose to be poor?

Gimme a break

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"For time and the world do not stand still. Change is the law of life. And those who look only to the past or present are certain to miss the future."
"Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of growth"
"Too often we... enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."
-JFK

Knight Errant of the Simian Order
Truth - Justice - Comedy

who issued you this license for licentiousness? do they have authority?

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Don't confuse me with the facts.

Please, I want to tell you something happened to my poor family recently.

About 11:00am July 11, 2008, a day near 2008 Beijing Olympic Games, a car accident happened on the Wangjiasan Part Avenue of Jiexian Avenue which belongs to Hexin Village (original name:Fufeng Village),Zhangjiasai Town, YiYang City, Hunan Province, China. My mom Wang, Saier, who was doing farm work, dead in this accident on the spot. Zhang,haijun, Township Side Secretary of the Party of YiYang City, Hunan Province, China, was in the car, but he run away soon after the accident, and he said nothing and never shows up since. Villagers who viewed this accident pointed out that Zhang, Haijun drove the car, black Santana 2000 directly to my mom…and the car owner Wang, XiaoJun also in the car, but he sat on the copilot position which means he didn’t drive the car. July 18, 2008, The Second-team of Yiyang Traffic-Police Detachment said Wang, XiaoJun, car owner, should be responsible for the accident, regardless of witnesses and local people's comments.

My name is Xu, Weiying. I am the daughter of the dead, Wang, Saie. My mom is a peasant all her life, never did bad thing to the government, love the Country. Do you believe that peasants dare to say wrong thing against the Township government officer if the officer didn’t do that? I cant take this sad story any more.

I am still waiting for the Inspection Result from Yiyang Traffic-Police Detachment which supervises the Second-team of Yiyang Traffic-Police Detachment. I employed a good lawyer from Changsha yesterday.
The Yiyang Traffic-Police Detachment did Fingerprints Identification again this Monday,July 28, 2008, 18 days after the accident happened in the Traffic-Police Station, because the Second-team of Yiyang Traffic-Police Detachment said they failed to extract the criminal's fingerprints when the accident happened.

The Inspection is on the way and I am waiting for the Inspection Result from The Yiyang Traffic-Police Detachment, means they haven't decided which one, Wangxiaojun or Zhanghaijun, is the real criminal, car driver, but villagers here noticed that Wangxiaojun was back to his home last week happily, and Zhanghaijun, Township Side Secretary of the Party of YiYang City, Hunan Province, China, is working in the office for a long time and is preparing for election (I don't know what kind of election). Where is my Mom now,

2008-7-30, my Uncle, Mom's brother, was caught by local police because of disturbing public order. The day, July 11, 2008, my Uncle couldn't control his temper when he saw my blooding dead mom, then he brought my mom's body to the Zhangjiasai township government building, which of course make local villagers shocked. They all talked about this accident. Several days later, that's today, my Uncle is in jail now.

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