Tenn. Teen battles Confederate Flag Ban

E_Pluribus_Venom · #1 (**permalink**) 08-13-2008, 11:00 PM

Trial by all-white jury is latest in string of cases across South

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KNOXVILLE, Tenn. - Tommy DeFoe wore his Southern pride on his Confederate flag belt buckle Wednesday as he argued in federal court that a school dress code banning such items violated his free speech rights.

"I am fighting for my heritage and my rights as a Southerner and an American," said the lanky DeFoe, 18, during a break in his trial.

DeFoe says his great-great uncle served in the Confederate army and "died for the South" in the Civil War.

But heritage was not the issue for Anderson County school officials who suspended DeFoe more than 40 times before he received his certificate of completion from the county vocational school last fall.

DeFoe's trial, which began Monday and is being heard by an all-white jury, is the latest in a string of cases across the South since the 1990s challenging dress codes that banned Confederate flag apparel: a prom gown in Kentucky, purses in Texas, T-shirts in Kentucky, South Carolina and Georgia.

It is unusual for such cases to go to a jury trial, however. Most were settled with a payment to the plaintiffs, said DeFoe attorney Kirk Lyons, who has been involved in many of the cases as chief trial lawyer for the North Carolina-based Southern Legal Resource Center. Others were thrown out by the judge.

DeFoe's lawyers claim the issue is whether the school system can ban the Confederate flag, a symbol of racism to some, if it causes no substantial disruption, Lyons said.

But officials in Anderson County, in East Tennessee not far from Knoxville, said they feared racial tension and violence if DeFoe continued to wear his Confederate flag shirts and belt buckle to class.

All sides agree his clothing failed to draw much notice at Anderson High School, where one of 1,160 students is black, or at the vocational school, where all 200 students are white.

But officials worried about the impact at Clinton High School six miles away, where about 100 of 1,200 students are black. Clinton High was the first public school desegregated by court order in the Old South in 1956 and was rocked by three massive explosions that temporarily closed the school in 1958.

"If he had worn at Clinton High what he wore at Anderson High it would have been a riot, somebody would have clobbered him," said county school board chairman John Burrell, one of several officials DeFoe is suing.

Yet Burrell said DeFoe clearly was "challenging the system. He knew the dress code. His father knew the dress code. He signed the dress code. He was challenging it."

Until 2001, the dress code for all Anderson County schools specifically banned the Confederate flag. Then the policy was rewritten to more general language "because we were afraid we would leave something out," Burrell said. Still, he said it was understood Confederate flag apparel wasn't allowed.

DeFoe's lawsuit questions why other symbols aren't banned, including the Mexican flag, the Canadian flag, political campaign buttons and images of Martin Luther King Jr.

He said other students wore Confederate flag clothing without consequence.

"I felt like I was the one who stood up for" what he believed in, he said.

Makedde · #2 (**permalink**) 08-14-2008, 01:45 AM

If the school has a certain dress code enforced, he is expected to abide by it. If there was no such dress code banning his chosen itens of clothing, there should not be a problem.
Besides, who cares what 100 black kids six miles away think? Seriously, we are too worried about offending, and too politically correct these days.

justabubba · #3 (**permalink**) 08-14-2008, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Makedde

If the school has a certain dress code enforced, he is expected to abide by it. If there was no such dress code banning his chosen itens of clothing, there should not be a problem.
Besides, who cares what 100 black kids six miles away think? Seriously, we are too worried about offending, and too politically correct these days.

it's a slippery slope
if he gets to wear his rebel colors then can't gang colors be worn under the precedent?
do we want that?
i recall the thread where some bimbette wore a stupid, provocative top, and got her ass beat by three black females who took umbrage to what was worn. i could imagine something similar happening if the rebel flag was flaunted as apparel
do we say wear anything you want, and recognize that there may be a social price you pay as a result? (notice i did not say we would not prosecute those who assault, for assault)
what may first appear to be a cut and dried case seems to be much more complex when examining the spinoff results which might occur

submarinepainter · #4 (**permalink**) 08-14-2008, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by justabubba

it's a slippery slope
if he gets to wear his rebel colors then can't gang colors be worn under the precedent?
do we want that?
i recall the thread where some bimbette wore a stupid, provocative top, and got her ass beat by three black females who took umbrage to what was worn. i could imagine something similar happening if the rebel flag was flaunted as apparel
do we say wear anything you want, and recognize that there may be a social price you pay as a result? (notice i did not say we would not prosecute those who assault, for assault)
what may first appear to be a cut and dried case seems to be much more complex when examining the spinoff results which might occur

it is a slippery slope ain't it?

Jellah · #5 (**permalink**) 08-14-2008, 03:11 AM

How would a student wearing a swastika be viewed and handled?

Can they claim to be using it as its original intent (the symbol predates the nazis by thousands of years and was to symoblize good well being, good luck, lucky charm)? Or can they claim to be celebrating their german ancestry and culture?

Is it ok as long as there are no jews in their class or school?

CB4 · #6 (**permalink**) 08-14-2008, 03:52 AM

society is turning into a bunch of (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*). everything we do these days happens to offend someone

Whatthe · #7 (**permalink**) 08-14-2008, 07:00 AM

Policy is policy. Applied to everyone it should cut down on disruptions. School Administration's first priority is to provide, on the taxpayer's dime, a place for people to learn/ be instructed, it's not an open forum to express whatever views students hold. They should have uniforms, not a dress code. Leave your soap-box at the curb and turn off that GD celphone!

justabubba · #8 (**permalink**) 08-14-2008, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Whatthe

Policy is policy. Applied to everyone it should cut down on disruptions. School Administration's first priority is to provide, on the taxpayer's dime, a place for people to learn/ be instructed, it's not an open forum to express whatever views students hold. They should have uniforms, not a dress code. Leave your soap-box at the curb and turn off that GD celphone!

if the student had the option NOT to attend public school i think i would agree with you
but because he doesn't, i don't
i do believe folks should be able to exercise their 1st amendment rights fully, and if they provoke incidents as a result, that is the price they pay
it's very difficult to hold that stand and realize that it would then allow students to wear colors into school, but again, that is a price we may have to pay for real freedom

teeko · #9 (**permalink**) 08-14-2008, 08:54 AM

We are being banned right out of our freedoms. Soon we will be without
freedom for all.

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