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And I've always provided a DOI when asked. Got an article you want a DOI for?


I'm sick of your petty accusations. If this is the case, then report me to a mod as flamebaiting is against the rules.

You're peddling nonsense of course. The reality is simple: I've been able to fully embrace the available peer reviewed literature. You two haven't. Unfortunately, rather than eliminate that error, you've gone for rather tagteam tiresome tactics designed only to hide from that error
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Your inane personal attacks are a chore. You've been told what to do. Present a paper that you want to read and I'll provide the DOI. Given I've referenced several dozen articles, I'm not going to spend my evening producing a long list for someone else. I'd be encouraging a lack of work ethic!
It wasn't a personal attack. If I had the name of the papers you cited I wouldn't need a DOI. Your tactics are so absurd and mindless its comical. You have been asked nicely to produce the proof of the claims you have made. You have not presented links, you have lied repeatedly about providing the names (DOI's) of the alleged reviews. You refuse to give them now. Your just some guy who lives on these forums in an attempt to give your life the purpose. You derive pleasure from talking nonsense. I was starting to get irritated by your bile, but I realized it is a cry for help. I'm sorry your life sucks, but trying to build yourself up by acting the way you do will not make your life complete. It is only amusing to you. Everyone else subjected to it is just irritated or, like myself, feels sorry for you. I wont bother to ask you to back up your nonsense again. Oh, and you really should think about getting a new chair.
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Says the guy that won't post any links.
Accusation after false accusation! You’re rather predictable. I don’t flamebait; I don’t troll; I’m not breaking the rules by following best practice (the very idea was absurd) and I can provide DOIs for everything posted.

I’ve just bothered to undertake literature review techniques and you haven’t. It has ensured that you’re incapable of mustering a valid reply.
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It wasn't a personal attack.
You’ve given numerous personal attacks. I can understand your frustration. You’ve started a thread over a subject that you couldn’t be bothered to research.

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If I had the name of the papers you cited I wouldn't need a DOI.
I’ve cited several dozen. You have access to them all. You won’t be referring to them as you won’t be reading them. You’ve shown zero interest in backing your stance up with peer reviewed published evidence. The explanation for that is obvious. Any attempt to adopt sound literature review techniques will lead you to accept a disagreeable conclusion: every aspect of my argument is supported by theoretical and empirical evidence. Given I was originally a pro-legaliser, I haven’t allowed personal bias to get in the way of research methodology. I’ve been able to review all available sources and construct a rational response.

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You have not presented links, you have lied repeatedly about providing the names (DOI's) of the alleged reviews.
That I’ve given DOIs is a matter of fact. That I can give a DOI to every paper referenced is also a matter of fact. That I won’t scroll back and do that for every previous citation is a matter of rationality. However, if you’re struggling to find any journal article please let me know. I’ll provide a link in a matter of seconds, demonstrating just how poor your literature review technique really is.

The rest of your post was more inane personal attack. You really should go on that creative writing class, just to induce a level of entertainment in your humph. I expect to be insulted with a level of class!
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Accusation after false accusation! You’re rather predictable. I don’t flamebait; I don’t troll; I’m not breaking the rules by following best practice (the very idea was absurd) and I can provide DOIs for everything posted.

I’ve just bothered to undertake literature review techniques and you haven’t. It has ensured that you’re incapable of mustering a valid reply.
Are you a professional in the field of economics?

As much as you glorify the peer review process for economic journals just about means you have to be.

Surely you must realize that people that don't get access to these journals through work resources must pay money to view any more than an abstract, which mostly consists of a statement of intention with no mention of results, methods or resources.

I tried for about an hour earlier to look up a paper you had cited. The majority of your sources can not be viewed for free by anyone who isn't a professional in a select few fields. I would register on one site and get a link to what it said would be the article for free and it would redirect me to another site.

I am over you telling me I have access to them all. If it was as easy to find them as you are acting, I would have read them (and discredited most of them) by now.

I am tired of dealing with your short sightedness on this issue. We can do 1 of 2 things. We can start over and you can give links and discuss my sources like a normal person, or you can continue try and poorly communicate all this info you seem to think is rock solid fact.

Although, I have seen change on the horizon with you now being "sick of (my) petty accusations" which is a pretty big change from post #789 when I was amusing you.

Perhaps you will soon realize that my "petty accusations" will stop only after you post links to some literature I can actually review without registering and paying money.

Then also to Antidote....

When you have more time, I would love to hear a more in depth analysis of the link I posted for you to peruse.
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Old 02-09-2010, 11:20 AM
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Are you a professional in the field of economics?
Nope. I employ economists but that's it.

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As much as you glorify the peer review process for economic journals just about means you have to be.
I do have a PhD and I do know how to reference. I follow best practice. There's no debate in that. I realise that you might have experience in literature review techniques. Fair enough. However, that provides no excuse for your quite ridiculous reaction to my ability to suitably defend my argument.

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Surely you must realize that people that don't get access to these journals through work resources must pay money to view any more than an abstract, which mostly consists of a statement of intention with no mention of results, methods or resources.
You should be able to gain access via local libraries. However, given time costs, I've always been willing to provide all relevant information. Questions about data, empirical methodology and robustness checks are suitably answered.

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I tried for about an hour earlier to look up a paper you had cited. The majority of your sources can not be viewed for free by anyone who isn't a professional in a select few fields.
I have access via my firm. The subscription costs for these journals isn't surprising, particularly with the cost of the quality control processes. That's no excuse for limiting sources to poor internet offering. Quality control is paramount.

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If it was as easy to find them as you are acting, I would have read them (and discredited most of them) by now.
You're joking surely? You have no means to discredit them. Your innocence of literature review techniques will be replicated in data methods, empirical methodology and the methods to soundly criticise conclusions. You've only advertised that you're prepared to make evaluation without being suitably armed with an understanding of the available literature. That is particularly poor practice!

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I am tired of dealing with your short sightedness on this issue.
Given I'm the only one that has bothered to research the literature (actually using that to completely switch stance, the myopia is your end.

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We can do 1 of 2 things. We can start over and you can give links and discuss my sources like a normal person, or you can continue try and poorly communicate all this info you seem to think is rock solid fact.
You haven't presented any source that I would find acceptable. Even in my secondary school days I referenced better. You need to catch up and accept the quality of my position, with my ability to defend all aspects of my argument. That would then enable you to contribute to the debate, in a similar way that I demonstrated was possible with Pudney's pro-legalisation position

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Although, I have seen change on the horizon with you now being "sick of (my) petty accusations" which is a pretty big change from post #789 when I was amusing you.
Your innocence amuses me. Your immature accusations do not.
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You’ve given numerous personal attacks. I can understand your frustration. You’ve started a thread over a subject that you couldn’t be bothered to research.
Wrong. I started this thread about the hypocrisy of the U.S. government having a patent on Cannabis's medicinal qualities, yet still keeping Cannabis as a schedule 1 narcotic. You apparently could not even be bothered to research the threads topic before you hijacked it.
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I’ve cited several dozen. You have access to them all.
What an idiotic statement. I do not even know the names of these studies. How am I supposed to access them?

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You won’t be referring to them as you won’t be reading them.
Its hard to review a document I don't have.

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You’ve shown zero interest in backing your stance up with peer reviewed published evidence.
I'm not the one referencing them in my citations. If your going to reference a peer review you should have the name of the review and share it with us all so we might see for ourselves.

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Any attempt to adopt sound literature review techniques will lead you to accept a disagreeable conclusion:
So you are clairvoyant now? You can see into peoples minds? See the future?

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every aspect of my argument is supported by theoretical and empirical evidence.
You have offered no proof of this.

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Given I was originally a pro-legaliser, I haven’t allowed personal bias to get in the way of research methodology. I’ve been able to review all available sources and construct a rational response.
I'm happy for you. It would be nice if we could all review your sources but you refuse to produce them.

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That I’ve given DOIs is a matter of fact.
Theres 80 pages in this thread. Did you expect me to troll thru them all to find 1 or 2 names?

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That I can give a DOI to every paper referenced is also a matter of fact.
This has yet to be confirmed.

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That I won’t scroll back and do that for every previous citation is a matter of rationality. However, if you’re struggling to find any journal article please let me know. I’ll provide a link in a matter of seconds,
We've already been down this road. You are a flat out lier. You lied then, you continue to lie now. All anyone has to do is look over the last two pages to see that you are indeed a lier as I had asked you to name some of your reference material and you wont. Who do you think your fooling?

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The rest of your post was more inane personal attack. You really should go on that creative writing class, just to induce a level of entertainment in your humph. I expect to be insulted with a level of class!
I think you are right to expect to be insulted. You portray a level of indifference to logic that practically demands it. I will venture a guess that any human interaction you receive here is better then what you get in your non-virtual environment.
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Wrong. I started this thread about the hypocrisy of the U.S. government having a patent on Cannabis's medicinal qualities, yet still keeping Cannabis as a schedule 1 narcotic. You apparently could not even be bothered to research the threads topic before you hijacked it.
You're quite welcome to stop responding to me. Indeed, until you finish any creative writing putdown class, I think it would be a grand idea.

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What an idiotic statement. I do not even know the names of these studies. How am I supposed to access them?
Statement of fact. The papers cited are all available in electronic journal format. Your innocence of the available literature, however, was expected.

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Its hard to review a document I don't have.
They're all available online via those DOIs. You won't be reading them as you have a bias that makes objective evaluation of scientific research an impossibility. In contrast, I've achieved it and switched sides.

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I'm not the one referencing them in my citations.
You won't adopt best practice because you cannot. Even if you could, you'd shy away from it as your position would become unsupportable

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So you are clairvoyant now? You can see into peoples minds? See the future?
Given I know the evidence I know the repercussions of a literature review.

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You have offered no proof of this.
Inane again! Everything I've said has been supported. Scroll back and start accepting good ole reality

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I'm happy for you. It would be nice if we could all review your sources but you refuse to produce them.
Inane again! I've given full references and offered DOIs for any article referenced that you're interested in. All are available online. Clearly you are quite ignorant of what scientific evidence is available. Whilst this might account for your position, its not for me to celebrate that result. I want you to read the material. Get reading.

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Theres 80 pages in this thread. Did you expect me to troll thru them all to find 1 or 2 names?
For those articles that you cannot find let me know. You do seem to need additional help with basic use of the internet. I don't mind though. We all go at our own pace.

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This has yet to be confirmed.
Go and try! Find a journal article referenced and I'll provide a DOI

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We've already been down this road. You are a flat out lier. You lied then, you continue to lie now. All anyone has to do is look over the last two pages to see that you are indeed a lier as I had asked you to name some of your reference material and you wont. Who do you think your fooling?
A quite immature response. I'll confirm the reality: if you’re struggling to find any journal article please let me know. I’ll provide a link in a matter of seconds.

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I think you are right to expect to be insulted. You portray a level of indifference to logic that practically demands it. I will venture a guess that any human interaction you receive here is better then what you get in your non-virtual environment.
Insipid to the nth order. Adopting an argument based on theoretical and empirical support is a celebration of logic. Your reaction reflects your impotence. You haven't read the available literature and therefore you are reduced to silly little playground tactics. I won't replicate that silliness. I want you to participate in the debate and its not for me to suggest that you cannot correct your most basic errors.
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I have access via my firm. The subscription costs for these journals isn't surprising, particularly with the cost of the quality control processes. That's no excuse for limiting sources to poor internet offering. Quality control is paramount.
Well then you should be discussing these journals with your peers in the field or at your firm. Why waste your time "slumming" it here on the web where there's no quality control? Perhaps a forum that charges a fee to post would be better suited to one such as you. I hate to see you reduced to the level of the common riff-raff here.
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Well then you should be discussing these journals with your peers in the field or at your firm.
I adopt best practice whenever evidence is required. It would be irrational not to
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