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Old 03-12-2006, 10:26 AM
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I love the obvious hypocrisy, and warped logic in Hollywood, and in their movies. These are some older movies, but they are still relevant.

House of Sand and Fog : I think this movies is supposed to serve as a kind of role-reversal analogy of the Middle East. The filmmakers did their very best to generate sympathy for the character Kathy Nicolo (Jennifer Connelly) despite her poor decisions and obvious culpability. I guess the main theme is that she is not responsible for her actions as long she is suffering.

Runaway Jury : This is a typical gun-control movie. The gun makers are responsible for a school shooting. Obviously, there is no mention about the responsible kid, his parents, or any events related to the actual shooting. You got to love the hero Nick Easter (John Cusack) shooting it out in an arcade. After all, the kids need hands on training (shooters) along with instructional videos (violent movies), and encouragement (gangster rap).
I guess manipulating a jury is OK as long as they defeat the bad guy.

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God forbid that someone try to get across their political and ideological views through art. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that one of the primary uses for art? Look closely. Every movie has ideological assumptions, meanings, and symbolism. Not all of it is liberal. And most of the time people just get lost in a good story. And for those of us who do watch closely, doesn't the story with ideological ramifications unlike your own at least induce thought?
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Should liberals be outraged by Westerns, most of which portray revenge as honorable? You can't claim that liberals are hypersensitive when you are being far more sensitive than they are, Jellyfish.
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Should liberals be outraged by Westerns, most of which portray revenge as honorable? You can't claim that liberals are hypersensitive when you are being far more sensitive than they are, Jellyfish.
Can you name the last time a Western made it big in the movie industry? Can you name the last time a western made it big? What do you suppose would happen if we looked at all the "liberal" movies, compared to all the "conservative" movies do you think they would be about even? I highly doubt it, their is a reason conservatives have their own movie festival because thats the only way they can get their movies out to the public in the long run. Most of the time.
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Should liberals be outraged by Westerns, most of which portray revenge as honorable? You can't claim that liberals are hypersensitive when you are being far more sensitive than they are, Jellyfish.
Can you name the last time a Western made it big in the movie industry? Can you name the last time a western made it big? What do you suppose would happen if we looked at all the "liberal" movies, compared to all the "conservative" movies do you think they would be about even? I highly doubt it, their is a reason conservatives have their own movie festival because thats the only way they can get their movies out to the public in the long run. Most of the time.
We'd have evidence that liberals are more creative and entertaining! Personally I don't think too many movie-goers care much about what the political message is to a movie. One difference I can see is that the conservative-themed movies seem to be the same story over and over again, like all those cold war flicks in the 80's.
Another interesting aspect is that quite often writers and directors don't initially see the political messages in their movies and are just interested in telling a story. It's nearly impossible to tell a story without some political message. And most good stories will be liberal because they'll challenge normal thought.
I highly doubt March of the Penguins was intended to be a big conservative message.
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We'd have evidence that liberals are more creative and entertaining! Personally I don't think too many movie-goers care much about what the political message is to a movie. One difference I can see is that the conservative-themed movies seem to be the same story over and over again, like all those cold war flicks in the 80's.
Another interesting aspect is that quite often writers and directors don't initially see the political messages in their movies and are just interested in telling a story. It's nearly impossible to tell a story without some political message. And most good stories will be liberal because they'll challenge normal thought.
I highly doubt March of the Penguins was intended to be a big conservative message.
LOL, and yet with the rise of these "creative" liberal movies has come the fall of the movie industry from its once great part. Lets look at this year, possibly the most liberal political messages ever and yet the movies, the Oscars, and basically any other way you measure the popularity of movies this year has tanked. I rarely go to the movies anymore, because hardly anything is ever out.
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Should liberals be outraged by Westerns, most of which portray revenge as honorable? You can't claim that liberals are hypersensitive when you are being far more sensitive than they are, Jellyfish.
Can you name the last time a Western made it big in the movie industry? Can you name the last time a western made it big? What do you suppose would happen if we looked at all the "liberal" movies, compared to all the "conservative" movies do you think they would be about even? I highly doubt it, their is a reason conservatives have their own movie festival because thats the only way they can get their movies out to the public in the long run. Most of the time.
Hollywood is dominated by people left of the average American liberal. I'll never dispute that. The point is that I haven't seen any liberals bringing up the "messages" of old Westerns to complain about them, which would be the equivalent of what Jellyfish just did.
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Con Air : This is the usual action movie with liberal overtones.
We have Cyrus the Virus (John Malkovich) who, according to Larkin (John Cusack), is a product of the system. DEA agent Malloy (Colm Meaney), who happens to be the usual uncompromising trigger-happy anal-retentive fool, argued that prisoners should be punished because they aren’t really people (if I am remembering correctly).
What is even more laughable is serial killer Garland Greene (Steve Buscemi) being reformed by the love from a cute little girl.
Of course there is some vigilante justice by the hero Cameron Poe (Nicholas Cage) and Larkin (John Cusack).
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rockyreagan, Is the movie The Passion of the Christ conservative enough for you?
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... And who exactly is forcing conservatives to watch liberal movies, Jellyfish?
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