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Old 04-23-2006, 10:45 AM
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What's dumb is this...
If WASPs controlled a large portion of the media, no one would think of them as an interest group in control.
In fact, WASPs do control a large portion of the media, and most of the really powerful positions.
Oh no! The WASPs and Jews might be working together...
Perhaps it's a Judeo-Christian media! White at that.
If we become more individualistic, will we complain of a human-run media?!

The assertion of "Jews control media" is that they run it as a common interest. If not, then it is pointless to worry since it only shows that Jewish people are more likely as individuals to work up the skills and interests for media business. Capitalism for ya. If so, then your solution is to... get into the business yourself or quit worrying about it.
So if the Jews do not use it to push for interest then what you are saying is that you just like to spout out meaningless demographics without interpreting them and without an agenda... Maybe that's the case. I have my doubts.
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Old 04-27-2006, 04:56 AM
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What is dumb is this - sitting back and letting a parasitic race controll the Public Information System of the host people. We are stupid to allow it and more stupid to think it is A-Okay.

Any non-Jewish person who has a fanatical loyalty to the Jews is sick.
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Old 04-27-2006, 05:07 AM
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What's dumb is this...
If WASPs controlled a large portion of the media, no one would think of them as an interest group in control.
In fact, WASPs do control a large portion of the media, and most of the really powerful positions.
Oh no! The WASPs and Jews might be working together...
Perhaps it's a Judeo-Christian media! White at that.
If we become more individualistic, will we complain of a human-run media?!

The assertion of "Jews control media" is that they run it as a common interest. If not, then it is pointless to worry since it only shows that Jewish people are more likely as individuals to work up the skills and interests for media business. Capitalism for ya. If so, then your solution is to... get into the business yourself or quit worrying about it.
So if the Jews do not use it to push for interest then what you are saying is that you just like to spout out meaningless demographics without interpreting them and without an agenda... Maybe that's the case. I have my doubts.
If WASP's control a nation's media in which the majority (by far) of the citizens are not WASP's, insinuating that their agenda is most likely deviant from the normal agenda would be legitimate. If WASP’s for instance had large influence in the South African media, whose interests do you believe they’re going to serve? Black interests or white interests? It’s a rhetorical question by the way.

It's perfectly normal that Jewish people control or even dominate the media in Israel, not controlling or dominating it would be simply incompetent and would harm their nation’s interest, Israel has a Jewish majority and naturally its media reflects this. However this is not the case in the US, Jewish people in the US are a very small minority and with their plausible (spiritual) connection to Israel comes possible bias.

Now I agree with Ruxpin that their influence in the media is not necessarily used for personal gains, you can’t see them as one distinct group with one common ideology, some Jews are liberal, some conservatives, others are anarchist, or communist, in short a multitude of ideologies, however one things binds them all and that is the almost unanimous support for Israel. A communist and conservative Jewish person may have opposite opinions on many issues, yet they agree almost completely that Israel should be supported.

I don’t blame them, I understand their spiritual connection to Israel and this should not be interpreted as criticism, it’s just analysis of this complex situation.
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Nice try, but there's still an assumption lingering.
I don't know if you personally make it, Bart, but there seems to be an implication that Jews in media are the reason we support Israel.
The assumption is that there is no good reason for non-Jews to support Israel.
Contrary to that, it is pretty strongly held by most that Israel is our strategic ally in the Middle East, despite its flaws the closest thing to a democracy in the Middle East, shares a culture more similar to ours than the countries that threaten it, and has been promised on several occasions that it had the support of the US.
If these reasons were not good enough to sway the majority or at least prevent a strong opposition, there is no way the position could carry weight. There is no way a majority of public officials would stand for supporting Israel.
Could it be that the American people aren't about to allow a semi-democracy that is our ally to be destroyed by countries that are hostile toward us and whose strongest anti-Israeli sentiments are held by people hostile to democracy and who also want to take Spain and India, and that the US has given its word on multiple occasions to defend.
There are good strategic and moral reasons to support Israel. It's difficult to put it down to "media control".
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Contrary to that, it is pretty strongly held by most that Israel is our strategic ally in the Middle East, ".
Could you give a few examples of this partnership, it's been pretty one-sided in my humble opinion.
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If Israel falls to Islamofascism, expect Spain next.
The strategy of Israel is containment.
If decency and sticking to our word isn't enough reason.
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If Israel falls to Islamofascism, expect Spain next.
The strategy of Israel is containment.
If decency and sticking to our word isn't enough reason.

How exactly? By the way, I recently attended a lecture in Amsterdam on the subject, surprisingly enough the Palestinian and Lebanese population have traditionally been one of the least religious Muslims in the entire Middle East, this was caused by the multiculturalism in the area and a product of Saladin’s legacy of peaceful coexistence, what a contrast when compared to today’s situation.

The re-Islamization of both countries began shortly after the creation of the State of Israel, in desperate times people cling to extremism, in Europe this is usually extreme nationalism (Germany’s Nazis, Austria’s FPO, Flemish Vlaams Belang etc) , in Islamic countries this is extreme Islamism.

I’m not implying that all the problems in the Middle East are caused by Israel, but this phenomenon is noteworthy. By the way, how exactly are Israel and Spain linked?
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