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Old 06-06-2006, 05:57 PM
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this time try reading closer, left wing spin does not equal biased towards democrats. They spin to the left as much (if not more so) that Fox spins right. And there are plenty of non-Americans (including the BBC's own former chairman) who say so.
you need to calm the f' down about all the bias. Stop running around like a headless chieck claiming "liberals bias" about everything. The fact remains that the BBC is international recognized as the most credible and among the best news sources in the world. Of course it has spin, but I'd rather have good news spun to the left than crap news spun to the middle or right.
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this time try reading closer, left wing spin does not equal biased towards democrats. They spin to the left as much (if not more so) that Fox spins right. And there are plenty of non-Americans (including the BBC's own former chairman) who say so.
you need to calm the f' down about all the bias. Stop running around like a headless chieck claiming "liberals bias" about everything. The fact remains that the BBC is international recognized as the most credible and among the best news sources in the world. Of course it has spin, but I'd rather have good news spun to the left than crap news spun to the middle or right.
It's as "good" as any other news network, no better and no worse. As is their credibility per the links I posted from around the globe. As a liberal I'm sure liberal bias doesn't bother you much. Just don't be a hypocrite and complain when Fox does it.
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i dont care what their bias is. They give better news than NBC, Fox, and CNN combined. They have shows about Africa, Asian, International Business, Eastern Europe, Culture from around the world, latin American stories. America is only sidebar when it comes to the BBC, as opposed to Fox and CNN which cant stop talking about crap like Michael Jackson and Terry Schiavo, and Cindy Sheehan. With BBC I can turn it on at any time and learn something new about this world and something thats happening. With Fox and CNN its nothing but crap all day long.
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by watching the Discovery Channel. CNN International also has more balanced coverage by country than its US counterpart. BBC does cover more areas of the globe although I think too many of their stories are boring and can't hold my interest. I think Discovery and others present the same things with a more interesting presentation.
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The old CNN was biased towards Bush Snr.!!


To the average phoney-conservative, any news source that is impartial is biased towards the left.
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To the average phoney-conservative, any news source that is impartial is biased towards the left.
like most liberals you either don't care about bias as long as it's your bias or you are so extreme left that you can't recognize it. Calling CNN biased towards Bush Sr leads me to the latter.

I happened to be overseas at the time Katrina hit last year, I didn't realize it until I came home, but the coverage was so biased and, more importantly, wrong and shabbily researched I have difficulty believing other stories aren't as badly researched. Links to foreign officials as well as former producers back my claims.
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The old CNN was biased towards Bush Snr.!!


To the average phoney-conservative, any news source that is impartial is biased towards the left.
like most liberals you either don't care about bias as long as it's your bias or you are so extreme left that you can't recognize it. Calling CNN biased towards Bush Sr leads me to the latter.

I happened to be overseas at the time Katrina hit last year, I didn't realize it until I came home, but the coverage was so biased and, more importantly, wrong and shabbily researched I have difficulty believing other stories aren't as badly researched. Links to foreign officials as well as former producers back my claims.
if what happened in Katrina had happened in any other country. The people would have expected their goverments to come to their aid immediately. And their governemtns would have done everything they could have to help them.

I recall that the phoney-cons were talking about murders in the Superdome, and the NG troops who delivered the first shipment of aid were too frightened to get off the helicopter in case a mob ran to kill them. Fact: the people needed help and there was no murders taken place.
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The old CNN was biased towards Bush Snr.!!


To the average phoney-conservative, any news source that is impartial is biased towards the left.
like most liberals you either don't care about bias as long as it's your bias or you are so extreme left that you can't recognize it. Calling CNN biased towards Bush Sr leads me to the latter.

I happened to be overseas at the time Katrina hit last year, I didn't realize it until I came home, but the coverage was so biased and, more importantly, wrong and shabbily researched I have difficulty believing other stories aren't as badly researched. Links to foreign officials as well as former producers back my claims.
if what happened in Katrina had happened in any other country. The people would have expected their goverments to come to their aid immediately. And their governemtns would have done everything they could have to help them.

I recall that the phoney-cons were talking about murders in the Superdome, and the NG troops who delivered the first shipment of aid were too frightened to get off the helicopter in case a mob ran to kill them. Fact: the people needed help and there was no murders taken place.
They did expect it, they were failed by state, local and federal. But you are mistaken in assuming that any other government would not have made similar mistakes. Numerous countries have made mistakes when it comes to emergencies, most recently Paris burning.

Yeah there were numerous phony stories reported, a heck of a lot of them covered by the BBC which is one large reason I don't respect them more than anyone else.
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The easiest way to ignore some souces and inflate others is to claim bias. Unfortunately the human mind isn't quite developed enough to recognize its own biases.
Best course of action is to assume bias.
Like Printer said, BBC is pretty (*)(*)(*)(*) comprehensive, even if slightly left (calling them far left is a good indication of one's own conservative bias, the equivalent of calling FoxNews far right).
But yes it is boring.
But frankly, I like that when I can stay awake through it. It doesn't use glitter and glammer.
On the other hand I don't give a $%&* about cricket, futball, tennis, bicycling, the World Cup, or any artsy-fartsy stuff (NPR's worse about that one).
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finally!! all my dreams have come true!!! we'll finally get some (*)(*)(*)(*) good news!!!
are you kidding?

the British bolshevik corporation is horribly biased in favour of the left and often reports the news in exactly the manner the government asks it to.

when a Labour minister was outed as gay a few years back, while all other news sources were reporting it the BBC put a blanket ban on it's employees that prevented them from discussing the matter in any kind of public forum or newspaper.
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