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Peter Jackson in dilemma over Dambusters
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September 18, 2006


MOVIE director Peter Jackson is wrestling with a dilemma over the word "(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)" as he prepares for his new movie, a remake of the World War II epic The Dambusters.

The Oscar-winning Lord Of The Rings director says the word has him in a no-win situation in his desire to portray accurately the true story of the Royal Air Force's daring raid on dams in Germany's industrial heartland.

Dambusters Squadron Leader Guy Gibson's dog was called "(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)" and it was also a code-word in the raid, but given the offensive connotations of the word, Jackson said today he was undecided if he should use it.

"It's a situation where you're (*)(*)(*)(*)ed if you do and (*)(*)(*)(*)ed if you don't," the New Zealander was reported as saying on the movie website Ain't It Cool.

"If you go one way, people are going to say we've sold out to political correctness. If you go the other way then you're obviously going to be inadvertently offending people. So it's a no-win scenario."

Pressed on the choice of being safe or historically accurate, Jackson said, "At some point we'll have to make the decision and whenever that happens we'll just see how we feel at the time."

The movie is based on a daring mission in which Gibson's bombers used innovative bouncing bombs to destroy dams in Germany's Ruhr Valley.

Jackson, who is producing the $US50 million ($A67 million) remake, said it was ironic that the best information they had about the bomb was from the Germans, who captured one which did not explode after a plane was shot down.

"The Germans dismantled it, they drew it, they measured it, they did blueprints of it, which are accessible today," he said.

Jackson described the 1943 raid as one of the most remarkable stories of the war.

The remake, which will be directed by first-time director Christian Rivers, 33, will reveal details of the mission which were still classified when the 1954 original was made.

British broadcaster Sir David Frost will act as executive producer on the film, which is due to be filmed next year in New Zealand and Britain and is being backed by Universal Pictures and StudioCanal.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...-29677,00.html

I think he should go for it.
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Historical accuracy is historical accuracy.

If he uses it I bet they take pains to minimize it's use, and write a scene where a minor character expresses discomfort with the word.
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Why, o why is this a problem. It is history, and we should tell history, also the uncomfortable bits
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I agree....history is history and should be written as accurately as possible. Some people have been missing that point lately.

I remember when I watched the mini-series, "Roots." It made a big impression on me. Had some of the "bad parts" been left out due to political correctness, I don't think it would have been nearly as effective. History has lessons....and to learn we must see the good, the bad, and the ugly.

That word was common back then. It's just the way it was.
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Peter Jackson in dilemma over Dambusters
AFP
September 18, 2006


MOVIE director Peter Jackson is wrestling with a dilemma over the word "(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)" as he prepares for his new movie, a remake of the World War II epic The Dambusters.

The Oscar-winning Lord Of The Rings director says the word has him in a no-win situation in his desire to portray accurately the true story of the Royal Air Force's daring raid on dams in Germany's industrial heartland.

Dambusters Squadron Leader Guy Gibson's dog was called "(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)" and it was also a code-word in the raid, but given the offensive connotations of the word, Jackson said today he was undecided if he should use it.

"It's a situation where you're (*)(*)(*)(*)ed if you do and (*)(*)(*)(*)ed if you don't," the New Zealander was reported as saying on the movie website Ain't It Cool.

"If you go one way, people are going to say we've sold out to political correctness. If you go the other way then you're obviously going to be inadvertently offending people. So it's a no-win scenario."

Pressed on the choice of being safe or historically accurate, Jackson said, "At some point we'll have to make the decision and whenever that happens we'll just see how we feel at the time."

The movie is based on a daring mission in which Gibson's bombers used innovative bouncing bombs to destroy dams in Germany's Ruhr Valley.

Jackson, who is producing the $US50 million ($A67 million) remake, said it was ironic that the best information they had about the bomb was from the Germans, who captured one which did not explode after a plane was shot down.

"The Germans dismantled it, they drew it, they measured it, they did blueprints of it, which are accessible today," he said.

Jackson described the 1943 raid as one of the most remarkable stories of the war.

The remake, which will be directed by first-time director Christian Rivers, 33, will reveal details of the mission which were still classified when the 1954 original was made.

British broadcaster Sir David Frost will act as executive producer on the film, which is due to be filmed next year in New Zealand and Britain and is being backed by Universal Pictures and StudioCanal.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...-29677,00.html

I think he should go for it.
..screw political correctness, if you are going to tell the story accurately then you tell the story accurately....

My grandfather (who fought in WWII) had a black lab called (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) too...He wasn't a racist either, so folks are going to have to do a little research, find their balls, and tell the story the way it happened...
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I don't know the history of the word, but if it was as offensive to blacks then as it is now, I say use it.

If the word was not as offensive as it is now, I say substitute it with another word that matches the historical impact. In maintaining the historical accuracy of the word, you could really screw up the historical impression of the guy using it. The latter is more important.
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118 definitions in the urban dictionary!!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)


Most historians agree, the word is a derivative of the Spanish word for black and the location most of the blacks used for slave trade by the Dutch & Portuguese, to recognize where they haled from, the Nigerian basin!!!

My great, great, grandmother’s nickname was nig, short for you guessed it “(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)”! They called her that because she worked from the time the sun came up until the sun went down, and never complained!! The name we kids called her was meema which means crossword puzzle in Japanese, I never resembled her to a crossword puzzle, but they were right, she worked more in a day than most people worked in a month!!!

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I agree....history is history and should be written as accurately as possible. Some people have been missing that point lately.
You must be referring too, the "911" GOP/ABC/Disney production??? Thanks for clarifying that!!!
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hmm that was in 2006... I wonder what ever happened to this movie.


BTW the word being robocensored is the N word.

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