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Old 10-16-2006, 11:48 AM
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The real Gold Star Mothers don't involve themselves with politics. They strictly support our troups and each other in any way they can.
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Yeah...we need to repeal the draft.

Stop FORCING these men to go to war.

...oh wait...
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Default may i borrow your statement 12(wo)man?

The real patriots don't involve themselves with politics. They strictly support our troups[sic] and each other in any way they can.

your sentiment seemed to be so perfect to illustrate the neocon position. love it and leave it alone ... no matter how much it needs changing
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Default "The real Gold Star Mothers"

you and I cannot decide who is a "real" Gold Star mom.

try a different approach - go after what they say but not them personally. I think you will agree with me.
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:16 PM
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Then why would you make such a slanderous statement as "He was allowed to bolt because evildoers didn't want to rock the Saudis boat"
I was expressing my opinion.


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So you think we should attack Al Qaeda within Saudi Arabia?
No. I was referring to weakening al qaeda in Saudi Arabia *pre* 9/11. I have read the FBI was prevented from persuing Bin Laden & Co prior to 2001 because of oil ties. Now....5 years late....BL is still supposently "curled up in a cave." Please. Thats one heck of an elusive cave.

RE: the quote you made above about terrorists flocking to Iraq. Many suicide bombers are flocking to the country because *we are there.* Our presence gives anti-US factions incentive to become suicide bombers. Common sense.

Foreign armies can't fight guerrilla warfare. This has been proven time and time again. The Russians in Afghanistan....our forces in Vietnam.

"Might" has nothing to do with it. It's all about home turf advantage and inciting "freedom fighters" zeal. WE view suicide bombers as terrorists (and I personally think anyone who blows themselves up for a "cause" is nuts) - but THEY view themselves as revolutionaries.

We've played into our enemies hands. And the war has nothing to do with 9/11. Our military is being destroyed.

And do you know how many animals have been injured in Iraq as well? Countless. They have no voice.

I'm taking the bus now. Goodnight
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The Real Gold Star Mothers have nothing to do with this
Far Left trash.

How (*)(*)(*)(*)ing disgusting that you filth use that name.
Use "Code Pink" you (*)(*)(*)(*)s and leave the Real Gold Star Mothers ALONE.


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In 2002, Peter Allegretta, a USMC veteran and president of the Putnam County Joint Veterans Council (NY) accepted the task of creating a monument to honor Gold Star Mothers. Allegretta’s introduction to Gold Star Mothers was when his childhood friend, Howard Bruckner was killed in Vietnam. The planned monument was to be a stone with a small plaque attached. It would be like any other monument to Gold Star Mothers that dot the country side since the first monuments of the 1930’s. What happened next is an amazing story. A Vietnam veteran, Fred Waterman met Peter and became interested in the project. Waterman was in the same platoon with Howard Bruckner when Bruckner was killed in Vietnam!! Fred felt the “Mom’s” deserved better than the planned single stone monument; he proposed a grand, classical bronze statue be created to properly honor Gold Star Mothers. It would be the first of its kind, and Waterman knew just the sculptor to do the job. Waterman’s Army buddy, Andrew L. Chernak, who was Bruckner’s replacement in Vietnam, was asked to sculpt the first Gold Star Mothers monument.

The first official meeting of the statue committee was in February 2003, in Carmel, Putnam County NY. Gold Star Mother President, Dorothy Oxendine and Pat Butcher were present. There were two designs submitted for the Gold Star Mother memorial. Chernak’s proposed design was of a WWII mother for two reasons. First, it would eliminate discussion whether or not the statue would be a Vietnam, Korea, or current day mother. Secondly, WWII saw the greatest number of Gold Star Mothers. The statue would be of a mother, tears flowing, looking off to memories of her child. Grief stricken and unsteady, she braces herself with one hand on a plant stand at her side. The hand grasps the Western Union telegram read with disbelief a moment before. The table top has a photo of a serviceman and a flower pot knocked to its side, teetering at the table’s edge. The second design presented by another attendee was a copy of a movie scene with a mother lying on a porch in tears. Chernak’s design was chosen by Dorothy Oxendine for the dignity and strength that co-existed with the grief and sorrow.

The Putnam County Joint Veterans Council started a fund raising drive and site planning for the statue. At Veterans Park in Kent, New York, the future home of the statue, the model of the statue was debuted in July 2003. The first donation was from a WWII Veteran who opened his wallet and gave Chernak $3.00. Andrew noticed the mans wallet was now empty and the proud smile on the aged veterans face. The first Veterans groups to donate funds were VietNow and many Pennsylvania chapters of Vietnam Veterans of America. The community at large, local businesses, individuals, motorcycle clubs, veterans and non veterans alike contributed. A major boost in morale and fundraising came from State Senator Vincent Liebelle and Robert Bondi of Putnam County, NY.

http://www.goldstarmoms.com/agsm/Eve...statue%20with%

Eighteen months of sculpting and foundry work later, the statue was set in place on her block of polished granite. The man operating the crane that gently lowered the statue in place was Peter Allegretta with members of the statue committee witnessing the results of their hard work and dedication. Five days later, in a moving one hour ceremony, the statue was unveiled before Gold Star Mothers from several states and many dignitaries. The customary applause did not happen at the moment of unveiling. Three minutes of silence was broken by staggered sobs and sighs. The smiles on the tear streaked faces of the Gold Star Mothers gave testimony that the project was worth the four years of effort on the part of so many.
http://www.goldstarmoms.com/agsm/Eve...ionKentNYl.htm

Those are Real Gold Star Mothers-
Your (*)(*)(*)(*) flinging crapheads are not...... they are trash..unpatriotic filth.


Instead of wasting your time and money beign (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s why dontl you use that money to help Real Gold Str Mothers and donate it to them????

Oh silly me thats right.you don't give a flying (*)(*)(*)(*) about them. their kids..... or anyone they fought for..your just USERS...disgusting filthy (*)(*)(*)(*) smeared USERS.


(BTW usually not one to complain.but since when did this forum start accepting posts like this?
..whats next kill the Jew with the Aryan Brotherhood BBQ November 20th..
join Code Pink on the 21st for the drag the dead son around the yard..???
..join the moveone live liars tour???)
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:29 PM
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what an angry soul.

The Gold Star Families For Peace have specific views about Iraq.

Both organizations are filled with good people. Obviously.

Women who have lost sons/daughers in wars have the right to express opinions about Iraq...or not.

Citizens have the right to participate in their protests....or not.

People who frequented the Twin Towers often have the right to be distressed over Bin Laden not being apprehended, too.

Note: I will change the title of the thread to "Gold Star Mothers (Families) For Peace". Don't know if it's possible to do so. Arguing over this is absurd.

Now I'm leaving for real.
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:33 PM
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Yes, people have the perfect right of doing all sorts of idiotic things and making complete fools of themselves.
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Good
..and you bet I'm angry.

If you want to be a bunch of losers whining about the war then do so..use your own names quit perverting long standing patriotic organizations names to suit your filth.

If you and your lil crowd gave a (*)(*)(*)(*) you'd use all the money thats going to be wasted achieveing NOTHING by giving it either to the Real Gold Star Mothers or other organizations that deal directly with the consequences of War...but you are all way to self centered for that..no you guys are going to fund your fat mouths making noise. /clap.
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:43 PM
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People in this organization LOST FAMILY MEMBERS IN IRAQ. THAT IS THE TRUTH.

Don't EVER claim I'm trying to make a mockery of dead soldiers.

What a waste. The net has more angry jerks then Saudi Arabia.

When was the last time YOU have visited Walter Reede..? Let me guess: NEVER.

I'm asking the moderator to delete the thread. The anger I see from net posters creeps me out. You seem violent.
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