Hi,

New guy here, nice to meet you all.

I hope you will check out this video.
The numbers and illustrations are amazing.
We allow this huge influx of illegal aliens and we will be long term screwed.

Please watch and send it to everyone.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...51411393887069

Here's a great presentation about the problems in our country with illegal immigration. It helps to put it all in perspective. It's worth the 14 minutes:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...roy+beck&hl=en

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"This is a time for a national imperative not to fail in Iraq." Condoleeza Rice, January 11, 2007

Here is another link showing what is happening in this country that is not being told in the national media.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIB_X...elated&search=

Watch the other related videos on the u-tube scroll bar.
If you have not seen them, it will kinda freak you out.
Every person I have shown these videos to is outraged.

BTW
on the video immigration gumballs in the previous post,
those numbers were only the people our government allows to immigrate legally.

It is much worse when you add the amounts of illegal aliens.

It is time to get off the fence on this, or it will be too late.

Here's a solution to your woes, JP
Induct those illegals into the armed forces and ship them off to the Iraq Fiasco. We could even set up recruiting stations in cities around Mexico and pay them less than regular Americans. Those illegals could fight for America, earn citizenship and then become productive members of our society!

So----you don't think the numbers are a problem? You don't think the number of illegal immigrants coming into our country is a serious problem that needs to be addressed?

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"This is a time for a national imperative not to fail in Iraq." Condoleeza Rice, January 11, 2007

Thank you for taking a hard look and understanding the real problem.
Too many people = collapse of our way of life.

I am glad to find someone else who is trying to get the word out.

No. I actually think that it's a minor problem. However...
You didn't respond to my idea. You ignored it.

I may have hijacked that part of the thread.
But being currious, what makes you think this is a minor problem?

Illegals make vital contributions to the economy. They pay taxes and, generally, avoid coming under the notice of the authorities. They do this because they are fearful of deportation. They are likely to never collect on the FICA tax contributions.
On the other hand...
Some of the men that get through are criminals and, living underground, are very hard to ferret out. They tend to depress the wage-rates in the lower sectors of the economy. I favor living wages for all.
The reason employers love them should be obvious to all. They can be treated like sh!it, prevented from unionizing, get stiffed on payday etc.

Do you suppose anyone will attempt to answer my question concerning the use of illegals in the armed forces?

Except in a command economy, lower wages mean lower prices, so the real living wage, all other things being equal, remains the same regardless of the number of immigrants. I still say that we should simply privatize a strip of land along all of our borders and allow landowners to decide who may enter their land. Keep the government out of it.
The main argument against this is that drug dealers enter the country through immigration and they are heavily armed to avoid capture by legal authorities, thus making them a risk to the landowners. Well, legalize drugs (the war on drugs is a failure anyway). Then drug dealers would, legally, be guilty of nothing more than trespassing even if the landowners refused them permission to enter. Very few people would kill to avoid a charge of trespassing, while many would do so to avoid hard time in prison under current U.S. drug laws.

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