Hehe, I think all the "What?" questions pretty much proves my point. I guessing that you post between your high school classes?

Would you mind quoting me where I stated that?

I've heard those people on other shows, but never on Rush since I don't listen to him. If you think political commentators are nothing but opinion, then you might want to take some of your own advice. Listen to what they say, and look it up. If you find something fabricated, post it up here and you’ll actually have something credible to say (wouldn’t that be a treat).

I do plenty of research and hardly find radio hosts tell a straight up lie. Exaggerate their POVs? Yes. Straight up lie? No.

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I don't know if I'd call them idiots. He knows how to market ideas to a very large audience and make it sound like common sense. His goal is not to preach to convert. His goal is to preach to the choir... same as most media outlets. It makes good economic sense.
Air America appeals to the same model but chooses a smaller niche audience and one that is less likely to listen to the radio and one that goes against the grain enough to scare off most potential sponsors.
Air America should have chosen another medium. Limbaugh chose the right one and he knows his audience.
I see his opinions as no more valid than those of people on this forum, but I do respect his talent for the entertainment business.
It is unfortunate that his model of entertainment is likely to be what all "news" resembles soon.
The objectivity ethic of journalism is dying due to its own impossibility. The result will be a lack of even attempting that objectivity or of simulating it by telling a biased audience what they already believe. People will only hear the news that they believe in and think concerns them particularly. The nation will drift further apart.
Just hoping that the counter-reaction comes around soon.

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My sole reason behind listening to talk radio is the debates and alternate viewpoints. Typically a conservative inviting a liberal to his show discuss an issue or recent news. Does Rush never do this? If not, I can see how non-right listeners would hate his show and classify it as ‘preaching to the choir’.

Definitely the million dollar question for the media, but I’ve always wondered: If a leading/well known/reputable Conservative and Liberal commentator are going over news stories and certain issues on the same show, how does that not reflect a semi-objectiveness?

The fairness doctrine?

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That leads to the other paradox. Having commentators from the opposite side is not necessarily balance. Balance depends more on the neutrality and curiosity of the questioner. It is also more balanced to have moderates from either side than to have radicals from either side. Why?
Because an audience that has what they believe reaffirmed by one side will react against the other side. It tends to be more entertaining than informative. True. Ocasionally a listener might actually allow the opposition's side to penetrate the skull. But the ruler of the show gets first and last word.
NPR has a moderating effect on many of its shows because they tend to pick conservatives that know they are speaking to a moderate-to-liberal audience and generally avoid reactive questioning. Plus the first and final word are generally divided. And they tend to avoid appealing to "common sense".

But in all reality I think what makes balance impossible is the fact that people by and large do not actually want it.
Entertainment is a priority over thought-stimulation.

Because people are for the most part not actually effected by whatever biases exist in the media, I don't actually see it as a concern. What I do find disturbing is that the very roots of the contraversy are founded in the objection of the mode to being shown the sides of the non-mode. They do not want journalism that calls into question the things they take for granted or the perception of fairness in society. They want blissful ignorance.
And the left's reaction is more exaggerated, harder core liberalsim.
The country is falling apart because people prefer their own realities to the compromise between them. Conservatives want the news to tell them what they already take for granted but to hear an occasional radical so they can feel they are being well-informed.
Liberals want to break down what people already 'know" and they know it is an uphill battle so they overdo it.
I don't think there actually are very many moderates in the country. Moderates seem more like shifters and apaths for the most part. There doesn't seem to be anyone to hold the country together.

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It certainly is a lot closer to balance than no opposing view at all. If the MSM had a Conserv vs. Lib format I’m sure talk radio would hardly be listened to. There are some programs moving to that format, but it’s only a small portion.

No doubt. But if more show hosts were a duo-Conserv & Lib, they could take turns with the last words. Someone who wins a debate will do so throughout the entire discussion, and not the last words...sure some weak minded people may get thrown from the last words, but not the majority.

You and I differ here. I think most people who even consider themselves a liberal or conservative will still appreciate hearing the other side, it typically won’t change their stances, but most rational people appreciate it I think.

“Entertainment” in itself is always enjoyed of course...but my form of entertainment is a good, rational, civil argument between two intelligent people.

I’m not sure what you’re basing this on, but I disagree with both (I’m sure you could’ve guessed )

Is it a pessimistic day for ya Java lol? What’s up man? I think there’s some voices who can hold it together, they’re not the loudest and most publicized voices of America...but they’re out there.

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It seems that way.

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Off the top of my head as a long time listner...

Specifc topics Rush is Wrong about.

Ozone depletion and Volcanos
Deforestation in the USA
AIDS prevention and condoms.
Dovovan McNabb
Native Americans and demographic collapse.
Nicotine's addictivness.

If I did some researh I'll bet I could find 100 Rush postions that have been proven 100% incorrect.

Ixtellor

P.S. I still listen to him about twice a week.

I listen to Rush's show on my lunch break every day. (yes I must be a moron...ill remember that when you come into see ME when im your doctor taking care of you) I disagree with Rush just as often as I agree with him, however I enjoy the political banter and debate.....I mean really do we do anything different here??

Rush is a smear merchant...same as O'Reilly, same as Colmes, same as Hannity, Savage, and all the libs on Air America. However I do find it funny how libs will discredit Rush, then yet listen to Air America or similar liberal radio personalities......ummmm so are you saying Jeanene Garafolo is more qualified to talk politics than Rush Limbaugh??

If your going to listen to one...just because you like them, then dont discredit others who listen to another one...BOTH sides are listening to smear merchants who will slant stories to fit into THEIR political viewpoints.

Rush Limbaugh is a flawed human being....just like EVERYONE here. For anyone who calls him a hypocrite....well im sure you have some skeletons in your closet as well....if you say you dont then your LYING. I enjoy Rush's show and so I listen....do I agree with him??? No not half the time. Do I find him humorous??? Yes I do.

It provokes thought....therefore it entertains me.

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Originally Posted by DeadCenter";p=&quot Hehe, I think all the "What?" questions pretty much proves my point. I guessing that you post between your high school classes?

If you don't listen to Rush, how in the hell do you know how smart he is or that he is telling the truth? Sounds like somebody is stepping on their ..........

Megga Dittos.

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