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I have to agree with Rocky on that one. It would be easier to take in your posts if you seperated the quotes from your own commentary.
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According to your logic Maha Rushie is smarter than everybody that was on the Iraq Study Group eventhough the majority of these men have held post dealing with the very subject matter the report was based on, but Maha Rushie who has never held any post is smarter than they are, he has more knowledge on the subject matter than they do.
Would you mind quoting me where I stated that?
Uh thats how this whole thing got started. Maha Rushie called the ISG findings "Stupid" then I said, ”The funniest part is they have never been involved on the so-called issues or events that they are considered experts on, so what does that say of the fools that follow them.”
Hmmmm...well, the ISG wasn’t mentioned in the original post, nor your second one. I responded to your so-called logic.

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I do plenty of research and hardly find radio hosts tell a straight up lie. Exaggerate their POVs? Yes. Straight up lie? No.


If you don't listen to Rush, how in the hell do you know how smart he is or that he is telling the truth? Sounds like somebody is stepping on their ..........
All I’ve claimed is that he’s a legitimate political commentator. An opinion I'm not afraid to acknowledge even when I don't listen to him. He’s one of the most successful talk show hosts to hit the airwaves, has been in the political realm for over 18 years, maintains over 13million listeners...and yet you say he’s a clown, a hypocrite, and illegitimate because he’s never ran for office.

I mentioned ‘radio hosts’ in general (that I listen to) rarely are found to tell a straight up lie. I’m sure you can dig something up on Rush that was fabricated at some point, I won’t try to defend a lie. But when you use the logic quoted above, the idiocy needs to be pointed out.
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According to your logic Maha Rushie is smarter than everybody that was on the Iraq Study Group eventhough the majority of these men have held post dealing with the very subject matter the report was based on, but Maha Rushie who has never held any post is smarter than they are, he has more knowledge on the subject matter than they do.
Would you mind quoting me where I stated that?
Uh thats how this whole thing got started. Maha Rushie called the ISG findings "Stupid" then I said, ”The funniest part is they have never been involved on the so-called issues or events that they are considered experts on, so what does that say of the fools that follow them.”
Hmmmm...well, the ISG wasn’t mentioned in the original post, nor your second one. I responded to your so-called logic.

Here is a snipet of Maha Rushie talking about the ISG:

On the December 6 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio program, Rush Limbaugh said he "wanted to puke" while listening to ISG members discussing their recommendations, "especially Sandra Day O'Connor." Limbaugh further asserted that the "Iraq Surrender Group" was "[l]ike the new Castrati," and that ISG members are "doing everything they can to unite the American people" in "defeat" and "surrender."

Now lets see who is on this group:

The other members of the study group include: James Baker, Lee Hamilton, Lawrence S. Eagleburger, Vernon E. Jordan, Jr., Edwin Meese III , Sandra Day O'Connor, Leon E. Panetta, William J. Perry, Charles S. Robb, and Alan K. Simpson.

Now are you going to tell me that Maha Rushie has more political and military experience than many of these people that have sat in summits and war rooms among other things.

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I do plenty of research and hardly find radio hosts tell a straight up lie. Exaggerate their POVs? Yes. Straight up lie? No.


If you don't listen to Rush, how in the hell do you know how smart he is or that he is telling the truth? Sounds like somebody is stepping on their ..........
All I’ve claimed is that he’s a legitimate political commentator. An opinion I'm not afraid to acknowledge even when I don't listen to him.

How do you know he is legit if you have never listened to him.

He’s one of the most successful talk show hosts to hit the airwaves,

I agree with that.

has been in the political realm for over 18 years, maintains over 13million listeners...and yet you say he’s a clown, a hypocrite, and illegitimate because he’s never ran for office.

He cornered a market I give him credit for that. I say he is a clown and a hypocrite for calling people that definitely have more political and military knowledge than himself stupid. If he is so smart and has all the answers to the ills of America and knows how to fix them why doesn't he run for office?

I mentioned ‘radio hosts’ in general (that I listen to) rarely are found to tell a straight up lie. I’m sure you can dig something up on Rush that was fabricated at some point, I won’t try to defend a lie. But when you use the logic quoted above, the idiocy needs to be pointed out.


Actually the idiocy is yours. That would be like me trying to defend Al Sharpton and I have never heard one word he has had to say. Now was your hero not caught buying illegal drugs? Take alittle time to read what he thinks about illegal drug use.

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1159

You wonder why I call him a hypocrite.

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That would be like me trying to defend Al Sharpton and I have never heard one word he has had to say.
Me defending Rush as a “legitimate political commentator” is like you defending Al Sharpton as a “legitimate spokesman for the African-American community”...something you would be right in doing...even if you only had a general idea of his positions and haven’t listened to all his speeches.

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Now was he not caught buying illegal drugs? Take alittle time to read what he thinks about illegal drug use.

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You wonder why I call him a hypocrite.
Congratulations on finding “hypocrite” in the dictionary. That’s at least rational argument behind him being a hypocrite, not that he’s an illegitimate political commentator because he’s never ran for office.

Maybe you’re starting to see why ignorant comments receive such criticisms. It’s never too late to open a book.
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That would be like me trying to defend Al Sharpton and I have never heard one word he has had to say.
Me defending Rush as a “legitimate political commentator” is like you defending Al Sharpton as a “legitimate spokesman for the African-American community”...something you would be right in doing...even if you only had a general idea of his positions and haven’t listened to all his speeches.

You defending Rush as a "legitimate anything" when you haven't heard a word he spoken is alittle dense. Now if you said Rush has the #1 talk show on the radio would be more up to speed. Who said Al Sharpton is a legitimate spolkesman for the AA Community. Have you asked every AA if Al is there spokesman?

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You wonder why I call him a hypocrite.
Congratulations on finding “hypocrite” in the dictionary. That’s at least rational argument behind him being a hypocrite, not that he’s an illegitimate political commentator because he’s never ran for office.

You said he wasn't a hypocrite.

Maybe you’re starting to see why ignorant comments receive such criticisms.

When it comes from someone who is ignorant on the man the criticism is weak at best.

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That would be like me trying to defend Al Sharpton and I have never heard one word he has had to say.
Me defending Rush as a “legitimate political commentator” is like you defending Al Sharpton as a “legitimate spokesman for the African-American community”...something you would be right in doing...even if you only had a general idea of his positions and haven’t listened to all his speeches.
You defending Rush as a "legitimate anything" when you haven't heard a word he spoken is alittle dense.
I’ve read articles, portions of his transcripts, and various positions he’s taken. I don’t listen to him on the radio, but still consider him a legitimate political commentator. Your assumptions and mindless arguments are beyond dense.

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Who said Al Sharpton is a legitimate spolkesman for the AA Community. Have you asked every AA if Al is there spokesman?
A spokesman representing a group of over a million people will never satisfy every single person. What career/political representation would you give him?

Its ignorant comments like this that clearly indicate you’re still pursuing a high school degree.

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Congratulations on finding “hypocrite” in the dictionary. That’s at least rational argument behind him being a hypocrite, not that he’s an illegitimate political commentator because he’s never ran for office.
You said he wasn't a hypocrite.
Hmmmmm...noticed you didn’t quote me again...how convenient.

“He’s one of the most successful talk show hosts to hit the airwaves, has been in the political realm for over 18 years, maintains over 13million listeners...and yet you say he’s a hypocrite because he’s never ran for office.”
= Not hypocritical.

superdumbbrutha: “Now was he not caught buying illegal drugs? Take alittle time to read what he thinks about illegal drug use.”
DeadCenter:“That’s at least rational argument behind him being a hypocrite, not that he’s an illegitimate political commentator because he’s never ran for office.”
= A rational hypocritical argument

Like I said, I’m not going to defend a lie or a talk show host when they screw up. If you bring a specific point that he was hypocritical on, great! I have no problem acknowledging it. But when you use your brain dead logic like you did above...it’s the responsibility of the rational posters to point out you’re an ignoramus.

I know it’s a lot more entertaining to just try and make things up, but we’re not your high school buddies you chat in the hall with. The more you spew, the more your name bleeds stupidity. I can’t wait till you post more and prove my point even further.
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we are all every bit (at least most of us) as "politically astute" as Rush or Hannity or Savage or Franken or Garafolo are.. (except for the "talking points they get .. )

But they have the power of the Microphone and some "charisma" ...I guess..

They are all entertainers passing off as "brilliant political minds" and unfortunately, a good many people listen to them to "form their opinions"...

When Rush actually admits on air after the election that he is no longer going to "carry water" for people who do not deserve it..........(I guess it must be the DIE-HARD DITTOHEADS that were below the Radar on that one..

They must all be seen as entertainers..some of who allow polite and frank debate (MEDVED and PRAGER) and those who slime and attack (HANNITY and SAVAGE)...
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That would be like me trying to defend Al Sharpton and I have never heard one word he has had to say.
Me defending Rush as a “legitimate political commentator” is like you defending Al Sharpton as a “legitimate spokesman for the African-American community”...something you would be right in doing...even if you only had a general idea of his positions and haven’t listened to all his speeches.
You defending Rush as a "legitimate anything" when you haven't heard a word he spoken is alittle dense.
I’ve read articles, portions of his transcripts, and various positions he’s taken. I don’t listen to him on the radio, but still consider him a legitimate political commentator. Your assumptions and mindless arguments are beyond dense.

Yea, yea, you are a Dittohead just admit it.

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Who said Al Sharpton is a legitimate spolkesman for the AA Community. Have you asked every AA if Al is there spokesman?
A spokesman representing a group of over a million people will never satisfy every single person. What career/political representation would you give him?

Titles are just that titles.

Its ignorant comments like this that clearly indicate you’re still pursuing a high school degree.

LOL is that what they give out now HS Degrees, it was a Diploma when I graduated man how times have changed.

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Congratulations on finding “hypocrite” in the dictionary. That’s at least rational argument behind him being a hypocrite, not that he’s an illegitimate political commentator because he’s never ran for office.
You said he wasn't a hypocrite.
Hmmmmm...noticed you didn’t quote me again...how convenient.

If I called him a hypocrite and you are defending him that must mean you think he is not, duh.


“He’s one of the most successful talk show hosts to hit the airwaves, has been in the political realm for over 18 years, maintains over 13million listeners...and yet you say he’s a hypocrite because he’s never ran for office.”
= Not hypocritical.

superdumbbrutha: “Now was he not caught buying illegal drugs? Take alittle time to read what he thinks about illegal drug use.”
DeadCenter:“That’s at least rational argument behind him being a hypocrite, not that he’s an illegitimate political commentator because he’s never ran for office.”
= A rational hypocritical argument

Like I said, I’m not going to defend a lie or a talk show host when they screw up. If you bring a specific point that he was hypocritical on, great! I have no problem acknowledging it. But when you use your brain dead logic like you did above...it’s the responsibility of the rational posters to point out you’re an ignoramus.

I take that as a compliment coming from a dumbass who claims he never listens too someone, but fights vehemonently to defend him.

I know it’s a lot more entertaining to just try and make things up, but we’re not your high school buddies you chat in the hall with. The more you spew, the more your name bleeds stupidity. I can’t wait till you post more and prove my point even further.


What point have you proven professor? Not a single one other than you are a Dittohead. Hey if you think Maha Rushie is the man more power too you. The weak arguement that you bring is because Rush has been on the radio for 18 years he is a political genius. The fact that 13 million other lame brains like yourself listen too him everyday does not make him a political wiz. Have you ever stopped to wonder why many of these talkshow host will not leave the comfort of their own radio shows to debate with people that disagree with them? Could it be that they don't have the power to cut them off and they might just be exposed, but someone as smart as you are would never accept that because he has been on the radio for over 18 years. Here is another little tidbit for you genius Maha Rushie did not start voting until he started his radio show have you ever read that article where he has criticized others for not voting, probably not.

As far as, your little high school student jokes go I will put my credentials up against yours anyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

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That would be like me trying to defend Al Sharpton and I have never heard one word he has had to say.
Me defending Rush as a “legitimate political commentator” is like you defending Al Sharpton as a “legitimate spokesman for the African-American community”...something you would be right in doing...even if you only had a general idea of his positions and haven’t listened to all his speeches.
You defending Rush as a "legitimate anything" when you haven't heard a word he spoken is alittle dense.
I’ve read articles, portions of his transcripts, and various positions he’s taken. I don’t listen to him on the radio, but still consider him a legitimate political commentator. Your assumptions and mindless arguments are beyond dense.

Yea, yea, you are a Dittohead just admit it.

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Who said Al Sharpton is a legitimate spolkesman for the AA Community. Have you asked every AA if Al is there spokesman?
A spokesman representing a group of over a million people will never satisfy every single person. What career/political representation would you give him?

Titles are just that titles.

Its ignorant comments like this that clearly indicate you’re still pursuing a high school degree.

LOL is that what they give out now HS Degrees, it was a Diploma when I graduated man how times have changed.

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Congratulations on finding “hypocrite” in the dictionary. That’s at least rational argument behind him being a hypocrite, not that he’s an illegitimate political commentator because he’s never ran for office.
You said he wasn't a hypocrite.
Hmmmmm...noticed you didn’t quote me again...how convenient.

If I called him a hypocrite and you are defending him that must mean you think he is not, duh.


“He’s one of the most successful talk show hosts to hit the airwaves, has been in the political realm for over 18 years, maintains over 13million listeners...and yet you say he’s a hypocrite because he’s never ran for office.”
= Not hypocritical.

superdumbbrutha: “Now was he not caught buying illegal drugs? Take alittle time to read what he thinks about illegal drug use.”
DeadCenter:“That’s at least rational argument behind him being a hypocrite, not that he’s an illegitimate political commentator because he’s never ran for office.”
= A rational hypocritical argument

Like I said, I’m not going to defend a lie or a talk show host when they screw up. If you bring a specific point that he was hypocritical on, great! I have no problem acknowledging it. But when you use your brain dead logic like you did above...it’s the responsibility of the rational posters to point out you’re an ignoramus.

I take that as a compliment coming from a dumbass who claims he never listens too someone, but fights vehemonently to defend him.

I know it’s a lot more entertaining to just try and make things up, but we’re not your high school buddies you chat in the hall with. The more you spew, the more your name bleeds stupidity. I can’t wait till you post more and prove my point even further.


What point have you proven professor? Not a single one other than you are a Dittohead. Hey if you think Maha Rushie is the man more power too you. The weak arguement that you bring is because Rush has been on the radio for 18 years he is a political genius. The fact that 13 million other lame brains like yourself listen too him everyday does not make him a political wiz. Have you ever stopped to wonder why many of these talkshow host will not leave the comfort of their own radio shows to debate with people that disagree with them? Could it be that they don't have the power to cut them off and they might just be exposed, but someone as smart as you are would never accept that because he has been on the radio for over 18 years. Here is another little tidbit for you genius Maha Rushie did not start voting until he started his radio show have you ever read that article where he has criticized others for not voting, probably not.

As far as, your little high school student jokes go I will put my credentials up against yours anyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

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Here is an idea....instead of the two of you taking up space calling names and insulting the other people despite BOTH of you making valid points. Why not have your little argument through PM's??

SBB....not everyone that listens to Rush is an idiot. I listen to him, enjoy his program....and disagree with probably half of what he says. Do I get my hard news from him?? NO!! However sometimes its fun to just listen to some good, heated political banter. Plus he is on the radio during my lunch break and so I go sit in my car and thats the most entertaining thing to listen to. (mixed in with some sports talk)

So im not letting him form my political opinions, he isnt swaying my vote etc etc. As someone who preaches racial tolerance and equality, you are VERY quick to discriminate against people who listen to a friggin radio program as all being morons.

And Dead Center....Certainly SBB has a point when he talks about Rush's hypocricy. He goes on and on and on and on about how great all the Right wing candidates are. But as soon as they lose (partly his fault with the Michael J Fox stuff) he then turns on them and blames everyone but himself. He speaks out against drug use, then goes and buys drugs illegally himself.

Do I consider him a qualified political commentator?? Sure....His job is politics and as long as he has been doing his job he knows the political landscape. As a human being I think he is flawed just like everyone of us are here. However is he a hypocrite?? Yes....actually more so then most people based on his actions.
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