Analyst
Saudi Arabia and UAE as "Moderate" by the New York Times
The um, NYT says that two of the most radical repressive regimes in the region are "moderate" apparently because the Wahhabi monarchies follows orders.
-This is the terminology used in American imperial culture.The New York Times: Saudis Vow to Ignore OPEC Decision to Cut Production
September 10, 2008
Moderate and pro-Western states like Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates..
Guru
Go to Arabia and see for yourself.Originally Posted by Horhey
Wahhabi is a catch word that has been demonized by liars like Spenser, Unger, Emerson, Baer.. and all those other tools who have never set foot in Saudi Arabia.
Analyst
Oh, so now you think the Saudi regime is moderate too? This is silly.
Last edited by Horhey; May 13 2012 at 08:22 AM.
Guru
Absolutely.. but then I spent many years there and visit whenever possible.
Most Americans don't know anything about Saudi Arabia so they are easily deceived.
Analyst
Deceived by who? The media, who apparently agree with you? This is not a serious conversation.
Last edited by Horhey; May 13 2012 at 08:24 AM.
Banned
Sr. Correspondent
Relatively speaking, it is.
Guru
This is an unusual media piece.. Most of the time people write about Saudi Arabia in very negative ways without ever having been in country.
Analyst
This is damage control for the media.
Guru
What?
Always listen to Ali Naimi.. I have known him for 50 years.
Do you understand just in time inventory? Its costly to store oil above ground if market demand isn't there.
Analyst
Right...
Amnesty criticises Saudi Arabia's 'shocking' human rights violations
22 Jul 2009
In a 65-page report, the human rights organisation said an unknown number of detained people have been held in secret without access to lawyers or visitors for months or years while those brought to trial often face grossly unfair procedures.
"The scale of human rights violations is shocking. Thousands of people have had their lives turned upside down or destroyed by violations of their rights in the name of countering terrorism," Amnesty suggested in the detailed report.
An unknown number of human rights defenders, advocates of political reform and members of religious minorities who had committed no crime recognised in international law had been caught in a "security-related repression", it wrote.
Local human right activists have long accused Saudi Arabia of using counter-terrorism efforts to detain opposition activists demanding democratic reforms or refusing to provide figures of detained and arrested people.
The United States, which is Saudi Arabia's main ally, and other Western countries rarely criticise the Gulf Arab state, which controls more than a fifth of global crude reserves and is a major holder of dollar assets as well as a key trading nation.Human Rights Watch: Human Rights In Saudi Arabia
Saudis are increasingly and openly discussing government affairs on Twitter and Facebook-a ban on women driving, arbitrary detention of peaceful dissidents and terror suspects, and corruption, among others-but the government in 2011 banned public protests, tightened press laws, and arrested scores of peaceful rights advocates and protesters. Saudi Arabia struggles with a poorly defined and nontransparent justice system based on religion that metes out draconian sentences. Women and minority Shia citizens face systematic discrimination. Immigration and labor restrictions on migrant workers facilitate widespread abuse. Western countries remained largely silent about poor rights conditions in the kingdom.
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