I dont' like either Michael Moore or Limbaugh. Both are partisan cool aid drinkers in my mind.

I agree both are propagandists, but I doubt thats what it says on their business cards.

It is obvious that you all see that Moore and Rush for what they are? Why then do you think that so many people buy-in to what they say? Is it because it helps their parties agenda? Or is it because they are so shallow as to think it is true?

Also, Why do people who understand that they both are not trustworthy sources, still advocate one over the other? Whats the point in supporting either of them?

I have to give credit to Moore though, because I saw him on one of the late night network shows and he said that he is only showing people his opinions and he doesn't care if people don't see his movie, he just wants them to start thinking about politics.
I'm sure he was probably just blowing smoke but it's interesting to me that he even said it. I don't recall if Rush has ever said that. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Most people pick one over the other based on their personal bias. If you are a conservative, then you will agree with Limbaugh more. If you are a liberal, then its Micheal Moore. Either way, you are going to give a less critical observation to the one who is saying many things you agree are correct even if he goes over the top sometimes. Basically, people are looking for nothing more that corroberation of the views they already held.

As for the reason people listen to these guys instead of more serious commentary., the answer is simple. People are lazy. Instead of dedicating hours to reading news articles and even reading sections of proposed legislation, they would much rather go to the mouthpiece they like the most and get the "Reader's Digest" version from him.

Thats exactly whats so scary. You get these highly partisan propaganda guys who are effectively the only news source for millions of Americans. If Rush said it, then it must be true or "I know GWB is evil because Michael Moore tells me so".

Where people become so shallow and intellectually lazy that society can easily manipulate them? Our current ultra-partisan situation scares me so much because of the sheer amount of stupidity and "sheepism" that is inherent with extremism

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Just teasing.

I think its safe to say that ignorance and emotionally charged politics enjoy a symbiotic relationship. At some point, it becomes a chicken or the egg question. Are we so igorant because we are partisan or are we so partisan because of our collective ignorance?

Something to ponder.

Most of Moore's "lies" are inferred. Rush just makes **** up. i.e. his claims that global warming doesn't exist, and if it did, it wouldn't be a problem. Or his claim that there are more Indians alive and acres of forest in the US than when Columbus landed. Or his claim that there is no evidence that smoking causes cancer. Or his claim that 75% of people earning minimum wage are teenagers. Or his claim that styrofoam is biodegradeable, but paper isn't. Shall I go on?

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Your defense for Moore is that his deceptions are more subtle? Are you giving him points for style because he can misrepresent the facts without needing to be so overt? I suppose that if we were grading their actions and level of difficulty was a factor, then Moore probably would have the edge.

I'm saying Moore's "lies" are matters of interpretation (such as the one about the Bin Ladens being flown out) while there can be no debate about how much Rush lies.

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