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You may remember this guy from rightwing blogs, who were absolutely sure he was a terrorist.

Really makes you think about how they don't.

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An Iraqi judicial committee has dismissed terrorism-related allegations against Associated Press photographer Bilal Hussein and ordered him released nearly two years after he was detained by the U.S. military.

Hussein, 36, remained in custody Wednesday at Camp Cropper, a U.S. detention facility near Baghdad's airport.

A decision by a four-judge panel said Hussein's case falls under a new amnesty law. It ordered Iraqi courts to "cease legal proceedings" and ruled that Hussein should be "immediately" released unless other accusations are pending.
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You may remember this guy from rightwing blogs, who were absolutely sure he was a terrorist.

Really makes you think about how they don't.
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A decision by a four-judge panel said Hussein's case falls under a new amnesty law.
Being found innocent and being granted amnesty are two compleatly different things! Can I get the link?

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You hold onto that thread of difference, there, buddy.


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You hold onto that thread of difference, there, buddy.


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Thread of difference? ITS A LEGAL LOOP HOLE! NO JUDGE FOUND HIM INNOCENT!


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BAGHDAD (AP) — Associated Press photographer Bilal Hussein begins his third year in U.S. military detention Saturday with the bulk of accusations against him dropped by Iraqi judges and press freedom groups renewing calls for his release.

But the Pentagon said Hussein will be held until it reviews the Iraqi amnesty ruling and also said it reserves the option to ignore the decision and keep Hussein in custody.

A four-judge Iraqi judicial panel on Monday halted terrorism-related proceedings against Hussein, saying his case falls under Iraq's 2-month-old amnesty law. The law — which was supported by Washington — allows the amnesty panel to effectively close a case without making findings of guilt or innocence.

Press freedom groups have hailed the decision and appealed for the immediate release of Hussein, 36, who has been in custody since his arrest by U.S. Marines on April 12, 2006, in Ramadi, about 70 miles west of Baghdad.

The amnesty ruling, however, may not include a separate allegation that Hussein had contacts with the kidnappers of an Italian citizen, Salvatore Santoro. In December 2004, Hussein photographed Santoro's body with two masked insurgents standing over it with guns.

Hussein was one of three journalists who were stopped at gunpoint by insurgents and taken to see the propped-up body. None of the journalists witnessed his death, said Santiago Lyon, AP's director of photography.

On Thursday, a spokesman for the U.S. detention command in Iraq, Lt. Cmdr. Kenneth Marshall, said Hussein will be held until military authorities can review the amnesty order.

Separately, U.S. authorities have said a U.N. Security Council mandate allows them to retain custody of a detainee they believe is a security risk even if an Iraqi judicial body has ordered that prisoner freed. The U.N. mandate is due to expire this year.

Throughout his incarceration, Hussein has maintained he is innocent and was only doing the work of a professional news photographer in a war zone. Hussein was a member of the AP team that won a Pulitzer Prize for photography in 2005.

"We believe Bilal's detention was part of a sweep of photographers by the military and was intended to prevent coverage of a part of the war that was not going well," AP President Tom Curley said last month.

After the Iraqi ruling, prominent press groups and rights advocates renewed appeals for Hussein's release.

Reporters Without Borders urged U.S. authorities to "release him without delay and to not persist in bringing new charges in order to prolong his detention." Human Rights Watch said: "It's time to set him free."

In December, the U.S. military brought Hussein's case into the Iraqi justice system. The military presented its files to an investigating judge, who imposed a gag order and submitted his findings to the Central Criminal Court of Iraq to determine whether the case should go to trial.

In February, however, parliament approved a law providing amnesty to those held for insurgency-related offenses including detainees such as Hussein who have never been convicted.

Hussein was a shopkeeper when he was hired by the AP to help with logistical support about a year after the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. He was trained in photography and began work as a photographer in September 2004 in his hometown of Fallujah, about 40 miles west of Baghdad.

Dozens of journalists — most of them Iraqis — have been detained by U.S. troops or Iraqi security forces during the war, according to the New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists. Most were released without a trial after short periods.

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Your Busted Again f0cal! I now see why you didnt post the link! Do you hate America to the point where you cheer when aleged terrorist get off without a trial where he is found innocent or guilty?

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Do you hate America to the point where you cheer when aleged terrorist get off without a trial where he is found innocent or guilty? [/color][/b][/size]
Guy's been held without trial for two years based on allegations.

He was cleared in Iraqi court.


You're right: there was no determination of innocence. He was cleared of Iraqi charges.

And remains in custody on a technicality.

In our custody, btw, without charge.
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Guy's been held without trial for two years based on allegations.

He was cleared in Iraqi court.


You're right: there was no determination of innocence. He was cleared of Iraqi charges.

And remains in custody on a technicality.

In our custody, btw, without charge.
Um, not quite. From the link you gave earlier:

The amnesty ruling, however, may not include a separate allegation that Hussein had contacts with the kidnappers of an Italian citizen, Salvatore Santoro. In December 2004, Hussein photographed Santoro's body with two masked insurgents standing over it with guns.
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You're right: there was no determination of innocence. He was cleared of Iraqi charges.

And remains in custody on a technicality.

In our custody, btw, without charge.
THATS A SERIOUS CHANGE FROM HAVING A THREAD OF DIFFERENCE NOW ISNT IT!?

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You hold onto that thread of difference, there, buddy.


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CONCLUDSION: YOU GOT SOOOO EXITED AT THE CHANCE TO SMEAR YOUR COUNTRY, AND YOUR PRESIDENT THAT YOU DIDNT CHECK YOUR FACTS BEFORE POSTING THE THREAD! THE NAME OF YOUR THREAD IS "AP PHOTOGRAPHER CLEARED OF WRONG DOING" HOWEVER HE WASENT CLEARED OF ANYTHING! NOTHING! NADA! HE WAS LET GO ON A LEGAL TECHNICALITY NOT AFTER DETERMINING GUILT FROM INNOCENTS! YET HERE YOU SAY THAT THE RIGHT WING BLOGS HAD IT WRONG AND THIS GUY IS INNOCENT!

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You may remember this guy from rightwing blogs, who were absolutely sure he was a terrorist.
BUSTED AGAIN!

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WONT SAY IN AN EFFORT TO FALSLY SMEAR YOUR COUNTRY AND OUR PRESIDENT? ANYTHING AT ALL? DO YOU HAVE ANY CREDEBILITY WHATSOEVER? BOY IS YOUR FACE RED!

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CONCLUDSION: YOU GOT SOOOO EXITED AT THE CHANCE TO SMEAR YOUR COUNTRY,
No, it's not that. It's that I want my country to stand for something. Fair trials. Habeus Corpus, those aren't just ideas, they're what makes us better than our enemies.

And, whenever we lose one of those things, we lose this war we're in.


I love this country.

But, you can't compete in a respectful discourse, because your opinions are hollow, and your rhetoric, borrowed.


Now, as I said, the man has been cleared of wrongdoing, insofar as the courts in Iraq are concerned.

He was never even brought to trial.

His case was thrown out.

And yet we continue to hold him, without charge.


I don't bring this up because I hate America, I bring it up because his lack of due process is unamerican.
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