Do you work for AT&T? You seem intent on ignoring any evidence of their wrong doing.

Also, I am talking about companies, not governments. Companies are not restricted by country borders, and frequently take lead from other large players in their field. AT&T is, no matter how you choose to spin it, a large player in the ISP field.

Can you provide any proof that maintaining Net Neutrality constitutes a government takeover?

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you have showed nothing to me that indicated the ISPs give a flying doughnut about filtering anything. Yet I can post pages of links where governments are shutting down sites regularly.


You are worried about the wrong thing, it is the government you should fear. You can change ISPs easily, but moving to a new country is a heck of a lot harder

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peer reviewed studies and graphs of the Medieval Warming periods can be found at http://www.co2science.org/

Yet I've posted numerous posts with direct quotations and you've posted nothing.

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uh no you have not posted numerous I will give you one that was legit - AT&T

how many examples of government censorship do you want.

http://www.isoc.org/inet2000/cdproceedings/8k/8k_4.htm

The short-lived Communications Decency Act was an example that freedom of expression is so highly valued, and constitutionally protected, that it is not possible for the lawmaker to try to break the hand of the constitution of a state. In the Reno vs. ACLU suit, the force of this freedom was confirmed by the ruling of the appeals court in Philadelphia; and when appealed, this law was found to be in violation of the First and Fifth Amendments by the Supreme Court. This historic ruling was extremely important for the Internet community, reflecting the importance of freedom of expression for this medium.

In the case of China, we know not only that access to the Net is controlled, but also of the actions against Lin Hai, who was sentenced to two years in jail for sending email addresses to a publication that is deemed hostile by Chinese authorities. Cybercafes must obtain a license, and ISPs must register their customers with the authorities. Access is blocked to sites carrying contents considered to be subversive or pornographic by the state, which justifies it on the grounds of national security and the stability of the political system.

In Singapore, the control has the same goal -- to forbid access to information that is considered a priori by the government to be harmful for the general population, for whom censorship is stronger than for business users.

In Turkey, a chat forum was sufficient for a young man to be punished for insulting the security forces by disapproving of their actions against some protesters, which is considered a crime in that country. His defense claims that his writings were not for the public in general, but only for the Internet users in that particular forum.

Australia, against the opposition of ISPs, is seeking to regulate the contents of the Internet. ISPs would be forced to prevent the dissemination of offensive contents, through "technically executable" means, and to monitor the online material when they are required to do so. This measure not only affects freedom of expression in terms of publishing of materials, but it also imposes censorship on users, by a restriction executed by the ISP.

In South Africa, there exists a proposed amendment to the Films and Publications Act, aiming to regulate the access to contents by the population.

In Britain, the interception of communications by the police would include Internet communications, through the intervention of ISPs.

Fortunately, we do not know of censorship attempts in Latin America, except for the tight controls in Cuba and the Chilean initiative that we describe in the next section.

In Chile, a parliamentary motion has been submitted in the Chamber of Deputies that aims at censoring the contents of the Internet. The bill proposes to punish individuals that use the Net to disseminate contents that are offensive to morals, public order or "proper customs."

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global warming , is there anything it cannot do ? http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm

peer reviewed studies and graphs of the Medieval Warming periods can be found at http://www.co2science.org/

Do you have anything from the current American Net Neutrality debate that proposes government takeover?

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Changing ISPs won't help you when ABC's website goes fast and your favorite other website for news and videos goes slower.

You are still unclear on what net nuetrality means. Your ISP has nothing to do with it.

It's about a small business website getting slow service while a big corporation who pays a big fee gets a faster website. Your ISP doesn't have anything to do with the speed - this is about big business vs small business.

My website vs Exxon's website. For example.

This website vs MSNBC's political chat website. For example.

This thread is about net nuetrality, not government censorship.

One has nothing to do with the other.

Not yet but the first step to censorship is letting the Feds get their hands into the deal

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Global warming alarmists are watermelons - green on the outside, red (socialist) on the inside

global warming , is there anything it cannot do ? http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm

peer reviewed studies and graphs of the Medieval Warming periods can be found at http://www.co2science.org/

You mean more so than allowing AT&T a "trunk room" to monitor everyone on their service and then promising them immunity if they ever get found out?

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if you don't like ATT switch...simple

http://news.cnet.com/High-speed-prov...3-5517618.html

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Global warming alarmists are watermelons - green on the outside, red (socialist) on the inside

global warming , is there anything it cannot do ? http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm

peer reviewed studies and graphs of the Medieval Warming periods can be found at http://www.co2science.org/