What if 1,000 American's were taken hostage by Hezbolla? Would Democrats want a, "Measured and proportional response." Like say, take 1,000 Lebanese hostages? That's proportional, right?


I see even Israel is infested by this type of leftist thinking.

So Israel attacked Lebanon before telling the U.S. to get our citizens out of there. Nice allies. I say we might want to consider declaring war on them.

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Israel is trying to get their soldiers back, Mr. Kidnapping, terrorist sympathizer. So tell me, are they going to chop their heads off?

Beware Isreali False Flag
Ops Planned Via Cheney
Hold IDF, Mossad, Shin Beth Responsible
For 25,000 Americans In Lebanon
By Webster G. Tarpley
7-16-6


WASHINGTON, DC -- The escalating Israeli assault on Lebanon clearly represents a conscious bid to provoke a general war in the Middle East. The captured Israeli soldiers are only the pretext for the present massive military operations. Israeli spokesmen are making constant allegations that Hezbollah missiles being fired at Israel have been manufactured or delivered by Iran. At the same time, the Israelis accuse Hezbollah of wanting to transfer the two captured Israeli soldiers to Syria or Iran. These statements are an attempt to build a case for an Israeli sneak attack on Syria and/or Iran. US spokesmen, including the Nietzschean fascist Bolton, constantly repeat the litany that Syria and Iran are the supporters of Hezbollah.

How might the Israelis and their Bush-Cheney allies escalate to a Middle East regional war? A linear scenario is that, after further bombardment of Israel by rockets allegedly made in Iran and allegedly delivered with the connivance of Syria, the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) lashes out at Damascus and Teheran. Syrian and Iranian retaliatory measures would then be seized upon by the Bush-Cheney regime as a pretext for US entry into the war. Here the US would be openly dragged into war as the tail of the Israeli dog. But this is a deeply flawed scenario, sure to generate huge waves of resentment against the Israelis and their US partners as the body bags begin to come home.

False flag scenarios would be entirely more effective from the point of view of the war planners. CNN and MSNBC coverage this Saturday morning has been stressing the situation of the 25,000 Americans now stuck in Lebanon. These Americans are being invited to register with the US consulates for possible evacuation. The State Department and the US military have been remarkably slow to begin such an evacuation.

One possible provocation scenario to bring the US into the war is that a helicopter carrying US citizens being evacuated out of Lebanon is hit by a missile and destroyed, killing all on board. The missile might be fired by the Israelis or by their allies among the fascist Lebanese Phalangists. The Israelis would announce that the helicopter had been destroyed by Hezbollah, opening the way for a hysterical campaign by Fox News and the rest of the neocon mass brainwashing apparatus to secure an early US attack on Syria and Iran.

An alternative: a group of Arabic-speaking Israeli Mossad or Shin Beth special forces, or a group of Phalangist militia round up a few dozen Americans and machine-gun them to death. The controlled media then blame the massacre on Hezbolllah, thus stampeding the US population into war.

The "Christian" Phalangist (or "Kataeb Party") have long been a willing cat,s paw for the US and Israelis in Lebanon. It was the Phalangists, controlled by the Gemayel family, who did most of the actual killing at the infamous Tel-al-Zaatar massacre in August 1976, the midst of the Kissinger-provoked Lebanese civil war. The Phlangists in that case did the dirty work under the supervision of the Israelis. Although the controlled media have been silent about the Phalange, it is clear that they are still available for dirty operations.

In an ominous sign, CNN broadcasts have featured first-person interviews with Caroline Shamoun, supposedly an American stuck in Lebanon. This reference recalls Camille Chamoun, the CIA puppet president of Lebanon who called in US forces in 1958. The goal of the current campaign is manifestly to call US forces to intervene into a Lebanese-centered crisis once again.

All peace-loving governments and all Americans of good will should make it clear that they hold the Israeli Mossad, Shin Beth, and Israeli Defense Forces directly responsible for the safety and welfare of the Americans trapped in Lebanon by the present aggression. Any atrocities against these Americans cannot be attributed to Hezbollah, Syria, or Iran, none of whom has any conceivable interest in provoking the US into an attack. It is Israel and Cheney who have such an interest, as is likely to have been discussed during Olmert,s visit to the US in May and Netanyahu,s visit here in June.
It is imperative that the US and world population be inoculated against the provocation scenarios now being propagandized by CNN, MSNBC, and the rest of the controlled media.

US STATE DEPARTMENT, ARMED FORCES AWOL FOR AMERICANS TRAPPED BY ISRAEL IN LEBANON
OTHER NATIONALS ALREADY EVACUATED WHILE AMERICANS ARE LEFT AS SITTING DUCKS FOR FALSE FLAG WAR PROVOCATIONS

Washington DC, July 15 - (11 PM EDT) The above hypothesis has received further corroboration from Fox News Saturday evening. According to Silva Boghossian, a US citizen stuck in Lebanon interviewed by Greta van Susteren at 10:25 Eastern Daylight Time, "the US has no plan" for an effective evacuation of American citizens in Lebanon. According to Ms. Boghossian, Italian and South African citizens staying in her hotel were evacuated "two days ago," meaning on Thursday, one day after the Israeli bombi9ng began on Wednesday morning. Ms. Boghossian said that she has registered with US consular authorities, but that "nothing had happened so far." She added that the persons she spoke with were of undetermined nationality. The hotel where she is staying is now "full of Americans," Ms. Boghossian told Fox.

All parts of Lebanon are within easy flying distance by helicopter from sovereign British bases on the nearby island of Cyprus (Larnaka, etc.) Nothing would be easier than to set up a speedy airlift which could bring all Americans in Lebanon quickly to safety. Bush, despite his constant demagogy about protecting the lives of Americans, is pursuing a policy of flagrant indifference to what happens to these 25,000 American citizens. They are being hung out to dry, left as sitting ducks for whatever bloody false flag operation may be cooked up by the Israeli intelligence services. This is criminal negligence infinitely worse than Katrina, in that any mass casualties among these Americans will represent a one-way ticket for this entire nation to World War III, a war which sooner or later will be fought with nuclear and thermonuclear weapons. A real US president would right now be warning Israel that it will be held responsible for the lives and safety of every American in Lebanon.

The feckless Bush, totally isolated in St. Petersburg, is instead focused on showing his subservience to Olmert. It is therefore up to US public opinion to demand effective security measures for Americans stranded in Lebanon, with immediate evacuation to Cyprus or other safe areas. - WGT


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Voltaire: “Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices.”

Does it strike anyone odd how the muslims appeal to our Democrats. The pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, pro-drug using, pro-feminist, anti-god Democrats. Might as well ally yourselves with the forces of Satan.

Islam is a false religion. Where is your Allah?

I heard on internet radio that the 2 Israeli soldiers were inside Lebanon when they were captured. Fox News forgot to mention that for some reason. Maybe because then they couldn't parrot the zionist claim that the 2 soldiers were kidnaped. Of course I was wondering before I even heard that, why the 2 soldiers had never been named so it could be verified that there were even 2 soldiers missing. But apparently they were but they were actually captured outside of Israel.

So I really don't see a problem here. Well maybe I do. I wonder why when american soldiers die in Iraq Bush ignores them but 2 Israel soldiers get captured for being outside of Israel and he decides to call a news conference?

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roads in order to prevent the captured soldiers from being transported to Beirut or out of the country but bombing the airport? That's is going too far and is counter-productive.

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It looks more like fearmongering by Bush by keeping the conflict raging as we approach the November elections and Bush can continue to paint the Democrats as wimps and the Republicans and the only party that can keep Americans safe.

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the memories of a man in his old age
are the deeds of a man in his prime

roger waters

When Americans die in Iraq it is ok because it is for a good cause and it's their job anyway. But 3 Isreali soldiers are captured and that's grounds for war. There seems to be an ulterior motive at work here and the neoclowns fell for it as usual.

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the memories of a man in his old age
are the deeds of a man in his prime

roger waters