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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel K View Post
    Perhaps it is to the excellent presenter.
    I would think so; Rageh Omar is Muslim.


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    Quote Originally Posted by snakestretcher View Post
    You call it self-censorship, I call it having respect for another culture's faith. I don't have a problem with that; why would anyone?
    Firstly because it is in proportion to the threat of retaliatory measures which runs contrary to our own culture's egalitarian principles. Secondly because in our modern secular society it is necessary for people to put up with perceived disrespect for their particular subculture, religious or otherwise.

    In the case of Islam we can see that deference is perceived as a weakness and is used as leverage to gain unwarranted power and influence by an honour based culture.

    Do you have a problem with demands backed by threats and violent protests, for the singer Medina to change her artistic name out of respect for another culture's faith?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlowe View Post
    I missed part 1 - t last night , but was able to watch it on BBC IPlayer, today .


    The Life of Muhammad, BBC Two, review
    Chris Harvey reviews the first episode of the BBC's three-part series about the founder of Islam.

    Telegraph review.

    "That seems reason enough to have made this series of three one-hour documentaries, which, according to the BBC, are the first full account of the history of Muhammad’s life to have been shown on "Western TV".

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...9/The-Life-of-

    Muhammad-BBC-Two-review.html


    (some comments from other viewers is also -"interesting" ). ehem .

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    In a ground-breaking first for British television, this three-part series presented by Rageh Omaar charts the life of Muhammad, a man who - for the billion and half Muslims across the globe - is the messenger and final prophet of God.

    In a journey that is both literal and historical, and beginning in Muhammad's birthplace of Mecca, Omaar investigates the Arabia Muhammad was born into - a world of tribal loyalties and polytheistic religion.

    Drawing on the expertise and comment of some of the world's leading academics and commentators on Islam, the programme examines Muhammad's first marriage to Khadijah and how he received the first of the revelations that had such a profound effect both on his life, and on the lives of those closest to him.


    BBC2 IPlayer (if you can get it in yr part of planet)

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ad_The_Seeker/
    Just another made up prophet who had disticnt loking for little girls and believed in the might of the sword over anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diligent View Post
    Just another made up prophet who had disticnt loking for little girls and believed in the might of the sword over anything else.
    Should we also mention the Crusades, the Inquisition, the burning of heretics, the torture and hanging of 'witches' including children? All done in the name of a made-up 'god', and perfectly acceptable because it was 'our side'?
    Last edited by snakestretcher; Jul 18 2011 at 02:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DutchClogCyborg View Post
    Ofc it is, they wont mention him having sex with 9 year old Aisha, attackin Caravans, of him being kicked out of Mecca for demanding other religious folk to obey to his will

    No matter if you repeat it here a 1000 times a day you will never make is fact

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    Quote Originally Posted by ObamaYoMoma View Post

    ( Blah - blah -blah )

    Your hatred for Jews and Israel must run very deep.

    Clearly not as deep your hatred of Arabs.


    Cheers - Go have a
    Last edited by Marlowe; Jul 18 2011 at 05:09 AM.
    The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it's the illusion of knowledge." (S.Hawking)
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    The difference between God+ historians is that the former cannot change the past."
    " If the facts don't fit the theory , then change the facts." ?
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    The news and truth are not the same thing. "- - (Walter Lippmann)
    INFAMY! INFAMY ! - sumin's got it, inferme
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlowe View Post
    Clearly not as deep your hatred of Arabs.


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    I’m not worried about Arabs. Indeed, Druze and Christian Arabs aren’t fighting against Jews are anyone else for that matter. However, the Islamic world, on the other hand, is not only waging jihad against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel but also against any and all unbelievers around the world including you and me. Yet, for some deranged reason, you single out Jews and only Jews to feed your unhinged obsession.

    Cheers.
    Political correctness demands that Islam be thought of as inherently peaceful and tolerant, and no explorations of its history and doctrines that would lead to a contrary view may be presented.

    Do heavy-handed tyrants—Saddam, Mubarak, Qaddafi, et al—create brutal societies, or do naturally brutal societies create the need for heavy-handed tyrants to keep order?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ObamaYoMoma View Post
    I’m not worried about Arabs. Indeed, Druze and Christian Arabs aren’t fighting against Jews are anyone else for that matter. However, the Islamic world, on the other hand, is not only waging jihad against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel but also against any and all unbelievers around the world including you and me. Yet, for some deranged reason, you single out Jews and only Jews to feed your unhinged obsession.

    Cheers.
    The first Arabs to organize against the European Jews were Arab Jews in 1920.. They were joined by Arab Christians in 1922.

    The Muslims were a bit late in getting it.

    The problem was socialism, free love, the lack of Arabic and flaunting Arab culture of modesty and language.

    They only spoke yiddish.

    It was a huge assault on culture and tradition.. and you can read about it in lots of contemporaneous publications..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ObamaYoMoma View Post
    I’m not worried about Arabs. Indeed, Druze and Christian Arabs aren’t fighting against Jews are anyone else for that matter.

    However, the Islamic world, on the other hand, is not only waging jihad against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel but also against any and all unbelievers around the world including you and me. Yet, for some deranged reason, you single out Jews and only Jews to feed your unhinged obsession.

    Cheers.
    Which goes to show how F'ing ignorant ooo are , While SOME DRUZE in 1947 chose not to resist the Zionists , those from villages near to Lebanes + Syrian borders FLED and later joined
    other Arab forces against the Zionists. And as for "Christian Arabs " they are amongst the most militant anti-Israel reistance.
    Considering your pathetic lack of knowledge , I would'nt expect that you'd know that George Habash ( the founder of PFLP ) was Christian Arab along with most members of the PFLP , as was Edward Said and many more. Yassar Arafat was married to a Christian Arab , whose three brothers were even more anti-zionists than Arafat was . One of the first suicide bombers , a bus , was a 17 yrs old young fighter from a prominent Palestinian CHRISTIAN family. While Christian Arabs might be a minority , those who've ancestors were driven out of Palestine by Jewish terrorists , LEHI -Irgun,etc., they've NOT forgotten nore forgiven.


    OBAYOMA - Go do your homework , instead of continually making an " ace" of yourself.


    cheers.....LOL
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    Last edited by Marlowe; Jul 18 2011 at 12:10 PM.
    The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it's the illusion of knowledge." (S.Hawking)
    “-------------------
    The difference between God+ historians is that the former cannot change the past."
    " If the facts don't fit the theory , then change the facts." ?
    ----
    The news and truth are not the same thing. "- - (Walter Lippmann)
    INFAMY! INFAMY ! - sumin's got it, inferme
    .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Margot View Post
    The first Arabs to organize against the European Jews were Arab Jews in 1920.. They were joined by Arab Christians in 1922.
    Did you slip on a bar of soap and hit your head? You don't really believe I'm dumb enough to believe that garbage do you?

    The Muslims were a bit late in getting it.
    What you mean late? Within a hundred years following the death of Muhammad, the Islamic world had already conquered most of the known world from Portugal to India and including over half of Christendom, and millions of non-Muslim unbelievers – Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Buddhists, Druze, and Hindus alike, – were either slaughtered outright, rendered into slavery, or rendered into very harsh and degrading dhimmitude. As the Muslims wiped out all previous cultures and history, as if they never before existed, while claiming for their own, the previous culture’s contributions at the same time.

    Nevertheless, what was left of Palestine at the time had long been abandoned, since once all the dhimmis had been forced to convert to Islam, Islamic society inevitably sunk back into backwardness. Hence, since the backward Arabs thanks to Islam were incapable of eking out a living off the land, they had no other choice but to abandon Palestine.

    The problem was socialism, free love, the lack of Arabic and flaunting Arab culture of modesty and language.
    You are right about Socialism, as virtually all leftwing Socialists today have been inculcated to believe that their can be no peace on earth and no one world Socialist utopia without national borders unless and until Jewish Zionism has been destroyed. Hence, leftwing Socialists are just as determined to exterminate the Jews as the Islamic world is today. However, leftwing Socialists are so psychologically unhinged and mentally incompetent that they will inevitably become subjugated dhimmis by the Islamic world, which will be perfectly fine by you.

    With respect to the lack of Arabic and flaunting Arab culture of modesty and language, it’s all 7th century barbarianism. As for as I’m concerned, it’s their culture that should be obliterated.

    They only spoke yiddish.
    Yiddish is a dead language. Jews weren’t monolithic, as they spoke many different and varied languages. Today they speak primarily Hebrew in celebration of their culture.

    It was a huge assault on culture and tradition.. and you can read about it in lots of contemporaneous publications..
    Not in what was the region of Palestine, as the Arabs kept backwards thanks to Islam, never arrived in Palestine in mass until after the Zionist Jews had already drained the malaria infested swamps and marshes and made the deserts bloom with their modern technology and modern Western knowledge that then began attracting backward ass Muslims looking for an easier way of life from surrounding regions. Hence, the notion that the Jews somehow stole or usurped the land from the original inhabitants is total, complete, and utter bunk concocted by taqiyya spewing Muslims like you to facilitate their permanent and perpetual genocidal jihad of conquest.

    Hence, go sell your garbage to delusional leftists who thanks to years of moral relativist indoctrination are too mentally handicapped not to know better than to swallow your unhinged garbage.
    Political correctness demands that Islam be thought of as inherently peaceful and tolerant, and no explorations of its history and doctrines that would lead to a contrary view may be presented.

    Do heavy-handed tyrants—Saddam, Mubarak, Qaddafi, et al—create brutal societies, or do naturally brutal societies create the need for heavy-handed tyrants to keep order?

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