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SURE the United States is a rogue state...if we weren't, we'd be flying the Union Jack at the White House.
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No matter how diplomatic the British try to be, if the Iranians keep up that cocky attitude it might end with bloodshed...And if the Brits do take military action...I doubt that we'll back them up...Prove me wrong, please.
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UK and US should give Iran 48 hours or Declare War.
I couldn't think of a better plan
except a gay marriage ban
is the world really that black and white
we would surely win the fight
but at what cost to man?
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Old 03-31-2007, 12:42 AM
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Default Esculation only leads to hardened attitudes.

The Iranian tubthumpers are no different to the US tubthumpers.

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Death chants in Tehran voice resentment of 'the little Satan'
By Angus McDowall in Tehran
Published: 31 March 2007

Ahmad Khatami, Tehran's thickset leader of Friday prayers, gesticulated in the air as he rebuked Britain. The thousands of people sitting before him are regime loyalists, representing the fifth of Iranians who always vote conservative.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...cle2408011.ece

The American dimension
Saturday March 31, 2007
The Guardian

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In one sense it is perhaps just as well that it was British, rather than American, sailors and marines who were taken prisoner. If they had been Americans, the rump of neo-conservatives in the Bush administration, in particular Dick Cheney and Elliott Abrams, would have been saying: "We told you so." They have long argued that Iran is not susceptible to diplomatic pressure, that the European approach is doomed to failure and the only way to stop Iran acquiring a nuclear-weapons capability is a military strike on its nuclear facilities.

Even though the prisoners are British rather than Americans, neocons have been desperate to head for television studios. The only reason they have not done so yet is a request by the British government to the Bush administration to stay out of it. Word has also reached members of Congress. The British fear is that even a mild rebuke from President George Bush, or a neo-conservative such as John Bolton, will be counter-productive, escalating the crisis and making it harder to get the 15 back.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...046966,00.html

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پاسخ تهران به جنجال انگليسى
• سيماى جمهورى اسلامى شب گذشته تصاويرى از ملوانان بازداشت شده انگليسى را منتشر كرد
• «فى ترنى» ملوان زن انگليسى: ما در آب هاى سرزمينى ايران دستگير شديم و مرزبانان ايرانى برخورد بسيار خوبى با ما داشته اند
• سخنگوى وزارت امور خارجه ايران : بحث تعرض نيروهاى نظامى انگليسى به آب هاى سرزمينى ايران باخويشتندارى واحترام به قوانين ومقررات حل مى شود
• موضوع ملوانان دستگير شده در حال پيگيرى است و اين مسأله نيازى به ميانجيگرى كشورهاى ديگر ندارد
• نائب رئيس مجلس: ايران با نيروهاى انگليسى برخورد حقوقى خواهد كرد
• لندن تا زمان آزادى ۱۵ ملوان، تمامى ديدارها و ارتباطات رسمى- دولتى خود با جمهورى اسلامى ايران را به حالت تعليق درآورد
• ايران ملوان زن انگليسى را آزاد مى كند

http://www.iran-newspaper.com/1386/8...ic.htm#s677877

Iran/US/UK same bellicose statements.

Mottaki: UK should apologize to Iran
Riyadh, March 30, IRNA

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Saudi based daily Al-Riyadh on Friday quoted Iran's Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki as saying that the British government as the first step to resolve the issue of its arrested sailors should officially apologize to Iran.

In an exclusive interview with the daily, the Iranian foreign minister underlined that there are some concrete and undeniable evidences that the Britons cannot deny.
http://www2.irna.ir/en/news/view/lin...1007145012.htm

Saudis are falling in line with Iran, and that's our erstwhile middle east ally.

The only correct actions so far have come from the Whitehouse who have un-characteristically shut up.

U.S. treads warily in hostage crisis

By ANNE FLAHERTY and MATTHEW LEE, Associated Press Writers Fri Mar 30, 7:28 PM ET

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WASHINGTON - The United States is taking a low-key approach to
Iran's capture of 15 British sailors and marines, concerned that more robust intervention might aggravate the situation and shake international resolve on Iran's nuclear program.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070330/...5GkKwAtBdSw60A
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I just realized we're not hearing from our Muslim 'friends' here on the board are we?

Kinda like we never hear from ANY muslims who live among us about denouncing this act of war. I guess that confirms they are against us- not with us.

48 hours sounds real good to me....
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The outrage from the left if we were to put on camera for the world to see, and parade the confessions of our terrorist captives renouncing what they did and condemning their governments. Now that Iran is doing it to the British sailors, no outrage at all, only a bunch of flimsy excuses and pandering. You are a pathetic bunch.

Have you wonder why Iran hasn't captured any American hostages? I can tell you in one word:

KABOOM!!!!!

I am on board with the 48 hours, there seems to be only one answer to the entire middle east crisis, and that is sadly violence. Negotiating with these manipulating liars is a joke, and the lefty loons will let them pi*s all over their backs and tell them it's raining, and that is how wars are lost, with plenty of history to back it up.
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I just realized we're not hearing from our Muslim 'friends' here on the board are we?

Kinda like we never hear from ANY muslims who live among us about denouncing this act of war. I guess that confirms they are against us- not with us.

48 hours sounds real good to me....
Their "faith" is EXPLICITLY "us" against "them", or fascist to the modern Western man.
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The outrage from the left if we were to put on camera for the world to see, and parade the confessions of our terrorist captives renouncing what they did and condemning their governments. Now that Iran is doing it to the British sailors, no outrage at all, only a bunch of flimsy excuses and pandering. You are a pathetic bunch.

Have you wonder why Iran hasn't captured any American hostages? I can tell you in one word:

KABOOM!!!!!

I am on board with the 48 hours, there seems to be only one answer to the entire middle east crisis, and that is sadly violence. Negotiating with these manipulating liars is a joke, and the lefty loons will let them pi*s all over their backs and tell them it's raining, and that is how wars are lost, with plenty of history to back it up.
The US has tried violence in Iraq. It didn't work there what makes you think it will work in Iran?
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The outrage from the left if we were to put on camera for the world to see, and parade the confessions of our terrorist captives renouncing what they did and condemning their governments. Now that Iran is doing it to the British sailors, no outrage at all, only a bunch of flimsy excuses and pandering. You are a pathetic bunch.

Have you wonder why Iran hasn't captured any American hostages? I can tell you in one word:

KABOOM!!!!!

I am on board with the 48 hours, there seems to be only one answer to the entire middle east crisis, and that is sadly violence. Negotiating with these manipulating liars is a joke, and the lefty loons will let them pi*s all over their backs and tell them it's raining, and that is how wars are lost, with plenty of history to back it up.
The US has tried violence in Iraq. It didn't work there what makes you think it will work in Iran?
To a defeatist like you, the word would be 'didn't', but there are those in Iraq that want to live without oppression, no matter how much you don't want that to happen.

There is really only two ways to address this, you either stand and fight or you run, and we all know what side you'd choose ashley.
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The western world has no business minding other peoples' business. We should not fight for any nations except our own. Our sense of honor should be for ourselves and what is best for us.

It's for sure no one else gives a hoot about the American people, or the British or the German, etc, or any nationalities of the west.
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