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Old 05-08-2007, 10:20 AM
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Default Dubai achieves economic growth rate of 16%

"Dubai has even built man-made islands—some in the shape of palm trees—to accommodate the wealthiest of them. Its economic growth rate, 16 percent, is nearly double that of China. Construction cranes punctuate the skyline like exclamation points."

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http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/n...re3/index.html

Funny the spectacular economic growth you can have when you don't have any income or business taxes...

"Costs
For setting up in Dubai, international companies have many secure cost advantages which may not generally be available elsewhere.

The cost advantages include:
• Competitive import duties (4 per cent, with many exemptions).
• Competitive labour costs.
• Competitive energy costs.
• Competitive real-estate costs.
• No corporate taxes.
• No income taxes.
• No foreign-exchange controls.
• No trade barriers for exports
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http://www.dubaicityguide.com/BUSINESS/business.asp


"Living Costs

Dubai is a cheap place to live when compared to Western Europe, allowing many people to save while experiencing a great quality of life. Petrol is given away, food inexpensive and loan rates reasonable.


Growth
Dubai has experienced extraordinary economic growth. It was the first city in the region to form free trade zones two decades ago, and foreign investors have not been shy in setting up their regional operations here. Beyond trade and manufacturing, this now extends to the free trade zones of Dubai Internet and Media cities (and shortly Medical City), giving the emirate a cutting edge technological advantage. Meanwhile investment in tourism has grown by leaps and bounds. With over 50 four and five star hotels in the city, tourism revenue overtook oil revenue as a part of Dubai’s gross domestic product (GDP) for the first time in 2003 – 18% of GDP against 17% GDP for oil. Dubai’s GDP increases an average 7.5% a year.


Taxes
There are currently no income or property related taxes of any kind. There are no business taxes except in the banking industry.


Policy

Each emirate in the United Arab Emirates enjoys considerable autonomy in managing its own affairs. In business, the government of Dubai is committed to liberal, free market policies and to the creation of a business environment conducive to commercial activity. This approach is well illustrated by incentives available to investors in the Jebel Ali and Airport Free Zones and by the continuing high level of public sector investment in the infrastructure."

http://www.homesdubai.com/about_dubai_economy.asp
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helps to have a steady supply of oil to fund everything
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helps to have a steady supply of oil to fund everything
Except that many of the other Middle Eastern countries have far more oil, and yet have impoverished populations and poor growth rate...

Hey, does that disprove your argument? whoops...
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OK, class.. Let's learn about Dubai.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai

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Revenues from petroleum and natural gas contribute to less than 3% of Dubai's US$ 46 billion economy (2006). [6] A majority of the emirate's revenues are from the Jebel Ali free zone (JAFZ)[7] and, increasingly, from tourism and other service businesses. Dubai has attracted world-wide attention through innovative real estate projects and sports events. However, this increased attention, coinciding with its emergence as a world business hub,
so there goes the oil argument (no shocker... most oil rich nations suffer more than they do well)...
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has also highlighted potential human rights issues concerning its largely foreign workforce.
Human rights issues? Doesn't sound very libertarian to me (never mind that as an emirate its own autonomy is highly limited)... Must look into this...

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Living conditions of the over 250,000 expatriate labourers in Dubai who live in conditions described by Human Rights Watch as being "less than human" [45] have often been criticized. [46] NPR reports that workers "typically live eight to a room, sending home a portion of their salary to their families, whom they don't see for years at a time." The BBC has reported that "local newspapers often carry stories of construction workers allegedly not being paid for months on end. They are not allowed to move jobs and if they leave the country to go home they will almost certainly lose the money they say they are owed. In December 2005, the Indian consulate in Dubai submitted a report to the Government of India detailing labour problems faced by Indian expatriates in the emirate. The report highlighted delayed payment of wages, substitution of employment contracts, premature termination of services and excessive working hours as being some of the challenges faced by Indian workers in the city. On 21 March 2006, workers at the construction site of Burj Dubai, upset over bus timings rioted, damaging cars, offices, computers, and construction tools
Sounds like what one would expect from "laissez faire"... though hardly a Utopia. It seems the trickle-down effect has not taken place there yet.
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Wait! There's more! I didn't dismiss you!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_r..._Arab_Emirates

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Specifically, the UAE does not have democratically elected institutions (citizens do not have the right to change their government) or political parties; free assembly and association are restricted; and the rights of workers are limited. The use of very young foreign boys as camel jockeys continue despite government pledges to end these practices.
Well, these are all certainly fine ways to grow an economy... but not having any rights over government? That doesn't sound very libertarian to me.

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By law, the Ministry of Information licenses all publications and approves the appointment of editors. Press content also is governed by law. Negative comments about Islam, the government, ruling families, or UAE citizens (by expatriates) are punishable by imprisonment, although this regulation is rarely enforced, as the press practices self-censorship. The Ministry of Information and Culture reviews imported printed material for content and imposes distribution limitations on material considered pornographic, excessively violent, derogatory to Islam, or contrary to government foreign policy.
Can you smell the freedom?

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A 2004 HBO documentary[12] accuses the UAE of illegally using child jockeys in camel racing, where they are subjected also to physical and sexual abuse. Antislavery.org has documented similar allegations.[13] The ABT, which was featured heavily in the HBO documentary, announced that in 2005 the government of the UAE began actively enforcing a ban on child camel jockeys, and that the issue "may finally be resolved".[14]

An action filed in the United State in September 2006 accuses Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al-Maktoum, Dubai's ruler, of abducting, trafficking and enslaving thousands of young children for camel races. The children were said to be from Bangladesh, Sudan and southern Asia.[15
Yup sirree... Definitely a place to look up to.
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They are a capitalist, totalitarian state. Go figure. China is like that, too. It's an odd combination. But it does show how a country can grow its economy (albiet with side effects).
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Singapore isn't exactly the land of freedom of expression either..its also not a bad place tolive. In fact many point to it as a model society.

...and I seem to recall it being a-OK to have the Chinese Communists overlook your ports but not the UAE...

Guess if I run concentration camps and kill people for mouthing off at the state its ok IF Im Asian.



I did though enjoy the OIIIIIIIIIIIIL knee jerk nonsense being blown out of the water.
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My brother-in-law recently returned from a trip there and he loved it. But he stayed at the Burj Al Arab and I'm pretty sure his trip didn't include a trip to the slums. As stated, I don't think is an example of a model society and the miracle of no taxes.
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Well, the economic part is one thing. The rest not so much. It does show that low taxes and leaving things be grows the economy. But it's not an ideal society by any means.
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Human rights issues? Doesn't sound very libertarian to me
Note that I didn't say they were libertarian, Java. You're putting words in my mouth. They're definitely not libertarian.

I simply noted that they were seeing spectacular growth - more economic growth than anyone else - and they had no income tax or business taxes.

If the government would work on correcting the other issues, then they would see far more improvement.
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