Thread: Islam, Arabs, invented Palestinians

Originally Posted by Margot

Newt is a moron.. he studied Modern European history and knows nothing at all about Palestine.

Neither was Israel a country 100 years ago.

The Arabs fought with the British to drive out the Tuks.. No European Jews fought.

The British had an administrative commission.. Palestine was neither a British Colony nor a British Territory.

Words have meanings.. Read the documents at Yale Law school : Avalon Project.

What Palestine did have was its own currency, stamps and newspapers until 1949.

Quite the apologist and appeaser. Why is that?

Some of sources who I have met:

Professor Bernard Lewis
Professor Salim Mansur
Tarek Fatah
Professor Daniel Pipes
Caroline Glick

Originally Posted by Onward James

Quite the apologist and appeaser. Why is that?

Some of sources who I have met:

Professor Bernard Lewis
Professor Salim Mansur
Tarek Fatah
Professor Daniel Pipes
Caroline Glick

Oh Dear... No wonder you think the way you do.

Ohh I lived in the ME for two decades, mostly in Saudi Arabia but also in Kuwait and Libya and I have traveled extensively in most of the others.. including 6 weeks in Palestine.

You are dealing with haters and Zionsts.

One of the best short, truthful articles on Israel and Palestine...
http://onwardjames.blogspot.com/2010...ticles-on.html

From everything I have read there's not much to be fond of in Islam, and zealous believers, which is the major majority.

The spread and growth of Islam leads to....
http://onwardjames.blogspot.com/2010...-leads-to.html

Muslims are generally peaceful when they are under 2% of the population... but once they reach 10% uprisings occur... 20% hair-trigger riots... 40% wide spread massacres... 60% unfettered prosecution of non-believers... after 80% daily they drive infidels out the country... 100% they supposedly reach Dar-El-Salam (Islamic House of Peace)... unfortunately peace never happens because they turn on themselves.

Islamist-Jihadists vs The World -- first Israel
http://onwardjames.blogspot.com/2008...-vs-world.html

Are you a devout believer, as well? Or, perhaps just anti-Israel, anti-Zionism, anti-Jews, and so forth.

Originally Posted by Onward James

One of the best short, truthful articles on Israel and Palestine...
http://onwardjames.blogspot.com/2010...ticles-on.html

From everything I have read there's not much to be fond of in Islam.

Are you a devout believer, as well?

Oh yes.. by heritage, training and belief I am a Christian.

Then, you are an apologist and appeaser, and likely a liberal. Are you an academic? Did you attempt a thesis on the Middle East, perhaps the Saudis (Arabs) and/or Palestinians?

Originally Posted by Onward James

Then, you are an apologist and appeaser, and likely a liberal. Are you an academic? Did you attempt a thesis on the Middle East, perhaps the Saudis (Arabs) and/or Palestinians?

No not an Academic.. a business woman.

Very conservative... Republican for 35 years or until 2003.

I am sorry to inform you but Shelby Steele is as uninformed as you are.. You are probably using all the same Jihad watch sources.

israel is the country of zionism, not jews.
i think that has to be a known fact by now.

of course there are different opinions about the matter.
and different groups of interest.

though the truth is israel is an invented state
with an invented manifesto.
that's even known to all true jews that are not
denying their own scriptures.

within the parameters of this statement,
i fail to see the importance of the "invention" of
a group of people called palastenians who are
getting slaughtered by israelis almost everyday.

invented to get persecuted?

on the other hand,
shia muslims are not mainstream muslims.

just like the members of "the church of maradona"
can't have a pope candidate...

or "nation of yahweh -black people are the true jews-"
has a very low impact on today's judaism...

or when people from the "the church of euthanasia
-save the planet, kill yourself-" knock on your door
you don't find yourself saying "ok boys let's give it a shot".

or "raëlism -scientifically advanced humanoid extraterrestrials
created humans-" hasn't been a real influence in scientific matters.


i hope i made my point,
otherwise i've got some more.


regards.

Originally Posted by Margot

No not an Academic.. a business woman.

Very conservative... Republican for 35 years or until 2003.

I am sorry to inform you but Shelby Steele is as uninformed as you are.. You are probably using all the same Jihad watch sources.

You seem to know, however. Bias? You named other prominent scholars haters. Bernard Lewis is even respected by Arabs and Muslims, of course mainly other scholars, those who are informed. The way you come across I bet you are a Ron Paul supporter.

But enough of this ridiculous exchange.

I am pro-Zionism, pro-Israel, pro-democracy, pro-American military and strong allies who recognize that we are in an asymmetrical war. Muslims will try everything to spread Islam, especillay the soft-sell financed by Shi'a and Sunni.

Those who consider themselves as moderates have a problem because they are ruled by believers who have submitted and shall remaine that way.

Originally Posted by Onward James

You seem to know, however. Bias? You named other prominent scholars haters. Bernard Lewis is even respected by Arabs and Muslims, of course mainly other scholars, those who are informed. The way you come across I bet you are a Ron Paul supporter.

But enough of this ridiculous exchange.

I am pro-Zionism, pro-Israel, pro-democracy, pro-American military and strong allies who recognize that we are in an asymmetrical war. Muslims will try everything to spread Islam, especillay the soft-sell financed by Shi'a and Sunni.

Those who consider themselves as moderates have a problem because they are ruled by believers who have submitted and shall remaine that way.

I am just Pro-American and Pro- US Military.... and Christian.

Taqiyya: Muslims can lie in order to protect Islam and its reputation from harm. Deception is allowed in the waging of jihad "holy war" with nonbelievers.

Islamic doctrine of Taqiyya
http://onwardjames.blogspot.com/2010...f-taqiyya.html

Muslims spread out and procreate, and proselytize...
http://onwardjames.blogspot.com/2008...reate-and.html