News in Brief II

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/930821.html

It had to hurt having to acknowledge what many Israelis (and others) have suspected for a loong looong time.

Anyway it is a good question.

The continue to try to ethnically cleanse the whole Arab peninsula of Joos. I wonder what the status of Jews will be in the new Muslim Caliphate? Christians? Gays? Atheists?

Looks like the Palestinians became radicalised when held without charge in Israeli jails. Injustice tends to do that to people.

The phrase you're looking for is blow back. And again military targets in Palestine is not considered as terrorism. Which makes the report incorrect.

Then I think the Israelis should not let them out. How many of these released prisoners were held without charge, as you assert? Another bit of unsubstantiated fiction?

As I have commented before, you don't read at all well. The article said "nearly 80 percent of them returned to terrorist activity." The key word here is 'returned'.

As for your assertion that "military targets in Palestine is not considered as terrorism'" you have made it clear that you consider Jewish women and children and even infants who are living in the 'settlements' proper military targets for the Palestinians.

I really wonder that you try to quote "international law" against Israel while you acknowledge that women and children are legal military targets. Real chutzpah, that!

The Palestinians can not return to something they were not in the first place. You claiming terrorist does not make it so.

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/spip...php?article126

The operative word is Illegal.

Sept. 1 836 IDF: Sept. 24 IPS: Sept. 29

Statistics on administrative detention

http://www.btselem.org/english/Admin...Statistics.asp

Your summation of the position of Squatters use of human shields would be correct, they are just unfortunate collateral damage. But if the squatters would care to send their families out out the war zone that would be a different proposition. It is the squatters who chose to take human shields in with them.

Then please let's not try to use peace time legalities or pretend that the Palestinians are being abused by the Israelis.

War is war. Those prisoners are prisoners of war. Israel does not have to charge them or release them until hostilities are over.

What does international law say about taking prisoners and how they are treated?
Do the Palestinians take prisoners or do they simply kill any Jew they can?

Are they treating Gilead Shalit according to international law? Does the Red Cross have access to him?

Under the Geneva Conventions, soldiers who fight out of uniform or commit atrocities – i.e., murder prisoners or target and kill noncombatants – may be sent before firing squads.

Whose using peace time legality??????

Geneva convention and Hague conventions covers conflicts and occupations.

I've never said it is anything but a war.

Both. The Palestinians can take pot shots at any invader of their country, or take them prisoner.

When it's practicable (which at the moment it is not), the Palestinians only have to supply the Red cross with the name rank and serial number of the Prisoners.

Civilians in War By Simon Chesterman, for claiming to have a Doctorate you don't seem to have read much. Did you but it off the Net?

Militias only have to identify themselves by being armed. That's the advantage of being in the defending position. Squatters are not non-combatants. You see your describing the position of spies and clandestine operations carried out by foreign national. The Palestinians are playing on their home ground. Israel are the away players. It is that point that you don't seem to have got your head around.

Hague convention Article 50

Hague convention Article 55

Hague convention Article 56

Hague convention Article 43

Israel is applying Israeli laws in the Golan Height in direct contravention of the Hague convention. Israel is applying Israeli law in the squatters villages in direct contravention of the Hague convention.

Israel by putting squatters on Palestinian territory is doing every thing in its' power to ensure public disorder and injure public safety in direct contravention of the Hague conventions.

Israel doesn't even comply with the Hague conventions.

ashley: such ignorance, they got arrested because of terrorism so to say they got radicalized because of jail is foolish.

once again, ashley provides not proof that they did/didn't commit the acts on israel soil. purposefully attacking innocents is wrong no matter where they are.

another error ashley has made is this. if they indeed attack ashley's "military targets" and got cause, israel has the right to hold them indefinitely as combatants until hostilities cease!

ashley wants them to be released to strike terror again. the 80% recidivism rate prove the truth behind release.

May 20, 2004 Marwan Bin Khatib Barghouti convicted of five counts of murder. He was acquitted of 21 counts of murder in 33 other attacks. On June 6, 2004, he was sentenced to five life sentences for the five murders and forty years imprisonment for the attempted murder.
As the Second Intifada raged, Barghouti became increasingly popular as a leader of the Fatah armed branch, the Tanzim seen as one of the major forces fighting against the Israeli Defence Forces as well as attacking Israeli civilians. When asked towards which civilians were legitimate targets for terrorism, he clarified: "And while I, and the Fatah movement to which I belong, strongly oppose attacks and the targeting of civilians inside Israel, our future neighbour, I reserve the right to protect myself, to resist the Israeli occupation of my country and to fight for my freedom"

Marwan Bin Khatib Barghouti is not a terrorist he is a legitimate resistance fighter attacking legitimate military targets. You may not like that, but well do I care?

Illegitimate military targets, but may be unfortunate accidents when overshooting fields. Although a strong case can be made for attacks on Sdrot being a legitimate target as it is in the Area set aside for the Arab partition area, and therefore occupied.

July 12, 2007 - Staff Sgt. Arbel Reich, 21, of Yuvalim was killed when Hamas activists ambushed IDF troops engaged in infiltration activity in the Bureij refugee camp in the central Gaza Strip. The activists detonated previously planted explosive devices and then opened fire with rocket-propelled grenades and machine-guns.

Legitimate target
Legitimate target

Legitimate target

Legitimate target, Negeb occupied territory.

Legitimate military target.

Legitimate target, Israeli occupied territory part of the Arab Partition area, ethnically cleansed in the 50's. (way past the end of the 49 peace talks)

Legitimate Military target

Looks like it's Israel that is indulging in "Terrorist" activity and not the Palestinians.

As the persons under detention have not been charged with any crime or even been found guilty of belonging to any militia, you assertion that they are prisoners of war is facile. If Israel could have proved anything then Israel would have put them on trial, as they did with Marwan Bin Khatib Barghouti who is a resistance fighter. Israel has the fanciful idea that resistance is futile and should be made illegal, where the reality is that it is war and Barghouti is a prisoner of that war and not a criminal.

Prisoner exchanges during a conflict are nothing new.

Hezbollah wants to swap soldiers for child killer

IN his Israeli jail cell Samir Qantar, who is serving four life sentences for murder and terrorism, dreams about an exchange of prisoners that might allow him to go home to Lebanon.

“I can imagine how I’ll return to my village,” he said. “First I hug my mum, then my brothers and sisters, all of them. My idea, which I’ll never give up, is to come out of here with my head held up, without giving up any of my principles.”

Qantar, 44, has been in prison since 1979, when he took part in an attack whose horrifying outcome made him one of the most hated men in Israel.

But in Lebanon, Hezbollah has made his release one of its key demands in negotiations to secure the freedom of Ehud Goldwasser, 31, and Eldad Regev, 26, the two Israeli soldiers it captured on July 12, triggering a 34-day war.

Qantar’s role in the attack on the coastal town of Nahariya 27 years ago would make this an especially bitter pill for Israelis to swallow. A policeman was killed and a family taken hostage when Qantar’s group burst into their home.

Danny Haran, 28, was shot at close range in front of his terrified four-year-old daughter Einat, whose head was then smashed with a rifle butt.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle626636.ece

Palestinians Honor Child Killer:

Prominent Palestinian Authority TV broadcaster Muhammad Albaz said in August 2004, “Here before us is the picture of the great Lebanese Palestinian warrior Samir Quntar. A thousand blessings to the warrior Samir Quntar [the audience claps] and to his family in Lebanon and to this hero who was sentenced to 576 year [in prison], and this is the evil, and this is Israeli democracy.

In a broadcast earlier that month, Quntar was hailed as “a model of a brilliant warrior who believes in his goals, knows his way, and perseveres in achieving those goals.”

“We bless the family members of Samir Quntar, we are with you, PA TV said in a Aug. 18, 2004, broadcast. “He is your son but he is also our son, the son of Palestine. We ask of Allah, that there will be 100 more Samir Quntars, 1,000 more Samir Quntars, 1,000,000 more Samir Quntars, that do and act for the Palestinian issue.

http://worshippingchristian.org/blog/?p=655