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Default [News for anti-semite] OPEC & Supply/Demand, NOT Israel, Led to Higher Oil Prices

http://www.opec.org/aboutus/history/history.htm

The recent rise in oil from 30-100, The vast majority of the price, is directly attributable to the rise of demand in China and India. NOT to Israel.

OPEC, a mostly ARAB Nationalist Cartel, tries to maintain a high a price as possible, while still not letting it be high Enough for the world to develop alternative energy sources. aka monopolistic Price fixing.

Recent strong DEMAND from the above forementioned has blown that however and the world is now very actively engaged in doing in all kinds of alternative energy plays; wind, solar, nuke, geothermal, etc.

Anti-semite Kennedy is full of sh*t and his 'Israel Support=Higher Oil prices' string should be in the 'Zionist Conspiracy' section.

One could only imagine the racket from Bigots like Ashley if JEWISH countries ran a Cartel whose purpose was self enrichment; [Maximal] pricing of a needed commodity.


Perhaps No recent/Late-20th-C invention has HELPED the third word as much as ISRAEL'S 1960's Invention of Drip Irrigation.. allowing crop growth on Arid Lands. That's what happens when you put Jews in a desert for just a few years. (and no Nobel was awarded)
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Now what was happening in 2000

Oh yes the al Aqsa.



1973, nah nothing happened there then.

Dip down in 93 now what could that be?

1978 Operation Litani. Israeli invasion of Lebanon.

1990 USSR collapses and Russia emerges, quick spike for that one.

2000 well intifada

2006 price starts to come down. 2007 price jumps again every time Israel starts on the war trail against Iran.
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Sept 2000: at al-Aqsa Intifada Start --- Oil $31.

Dec 2001: 1+ year in at Intifada Peak - Falling Oil Dips Below $20 to $18.


(and please note on Hashely Himmler's own chart in post above the NON-move/NO-effect/Slow Decline in Oil Price right through the biggest event in Israel-Arab history, the 1967 War! Ooof)

Meanwhile, booming China, India, etc demand is Exploding near 15% a year.

2005-2007: Intifada Slows to a Crawl; BUT!, Oil Triples from $33 to $100.

1 Billion person China demand alone has now More than Doubled from year 2000... and as 2007 closes, China is adding 200,000 Cars a DAY to the road.

Yep, Anti-semite Hashley, it's Israel's fault.
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The intifada has not slowed to a crawl, the Israeli have not suffered from any big hits but the Israelis have been carrying out a few massacres themselves. Neither did the al Aqsa intifada it start in September 2000, the provocation of Sharon only gave the intifada the name. It has only been the continuation from 1993 with a few lulls never any full truces.

I personaly would put it starting in about:-

13th November bomb explosions in Zion Square seven were killed and 42 wounded


American Jewish Yearbook 1977 Page 493


http://www.ajcarchives.org/AJC_DATA/...l_77__1977.pdf


November 20 1975: Golan Heights, three Palestinians of the Popular Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine attacked Ramat Magshimim, a settlement where talmudic study was combined with military service, and killed three soldier-students before returning to Syria.


American Jewish Year book 1977 page 493


http://www.ajcarchives.org/AJC_DATA/...l_77__1977.pdf


December Settlers squat in Sabaste. Escalates into bloody riots in Nablus Bir Zeit Ramallah and Hebron


2nd December 1975. Israel Air Force planes attacked targets in the Nabatiya district in southern Lebanon and near Tripoli, north of Beirut. Defence Minister Peres explained that these were not retaliatory operations, but attacks on Palestinian bases, designed to disorganize them and forestall further acts of aggression.


American Jewish yearbook page 493


http://www.ajcarchives.org/AJC_DATA/...l_77__1977.pdf



The Israeli neo-Nazis in jump boots have never been sated in their blood lust, they have taught their children to hate, that those lessons have been well learnt is shown by the way that Israeli neo-Nazis happily target Palestinian children.

I see you do not note the spikes of Israeli invasions into Lebanon.
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Sept 2000: at al-Aqsa Intifada Start --- Oil $31.

Dec 2001: 1+ year in at Intifada Peak - Falling Oil Dips Below $20 to $18.


(and please note on Hashely Himmler's own chart in post above the NON-move/NO-effect/Slow Decline in Oil Price right through the biggest event in Israel-Arab history, the 1967 War! Ooof)

Meanwhile, booming China, India, etc demand is Exploding near 15% a year.

2005-2007: Intifada Slows to a Crawl; BUT!, Oil Triples from $33 to $100.

1 Billion person China demand alone has now More than Doubled from year 2000... and as 2007 closes, China is adding 200,000 Cars a DAY to the road.

Yep, Anti-semite Hashley, it's Israel's fault.
good post, nice clear chart, right-on in character analysis.

see also: http://www.terrorfreeoil.org/
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I wonder if Shell will stop selling Nigerian Oil??????

What made the 1973 spike?????

6th October 1973: Yom Kippur War (October War). Egyptian president Sadat and Syrian President Assad plan a surprise attack to end the stalemate. In a surprise attack on the Jewish Day of Atonement, The Egyptians and the Syrians made some significant initial gains: Egypt retook the Suez Canal and a narrow zone along the entire length of the Suez Canal on the east bank. Syria re-conquered the Golan Heights and came within sight of the Sea of Galilee. Following massive US and Soviet re-supplying of the sides, Oct. 8, the first Israeli reserves counterattack succeeded in pushing back the Syrians coming within artillery range of the airfields around the Syrian capital, Damascus by Oct. 13. In Sinai, by Oct. 25 the IDF crossed the Suez Canal and cut off the Egyptian Third Army and got to a distance of 100 kms from the Egyptian capital, Cairo.
16th October 1973: Arab states (Arab petroleum exporting countries) impose total Oil embargo on the U.S. in retaliation for U.S. aid to Israel during the war. Operation Nickel Grass — the U.S. re-supply effort during the Yom Kippur War — led to retaliation, as the Arab states declared a complete oil embargo on the United States, causing oil prices to skyrocket, fuel becoming scarce, and embroiling the United States in the 1973 oil crisis.
20th October 1973: US Secretary of State Kissinger flew to Moscow, and, together with the Soviet Government, the US proposed a cease-fire resolution in the UN Security Council.
21 October 1973: The Council met at the urgent request of both the US and the USSR, and by 14 votes to none, adopted resolution 338, after midnight.
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right, that cease-fire was really useful esp to Syria, eh?
The Arabs aren't really interested in taking a financial & political hit just to hurt Israel. In fact, even if there were no Israel, guess who would be paying for the whole freight for the Palestinians? The Arabs. There is no way the Arab states want to pick up the ticket for the Palies. The status quo suits them just fine.

btw, you never spoke to Abu's point-- why didn't the oil spike in 1967? There is no pattern here except in your obssessed imagination.

The world will have to find another means of fueling our lives besides (Arab) oil. When they do, I wonder what will happen to the Arab economy?
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The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) is a permanent, intergovernmental Organization, created at the Baghdad Conference on September 10–14, 1960, by Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Venezuela. The five Founding Members were later joined by nine other Members: Qatar (1961); Indonesia (1962); Socialist Peoples Libyan Arab Jamahiriya (1962); United Arab Emirates (1967); Algeria (1969); Nigeria (1971); Ecuador (1973) – suspended its membership from December 1992-December 2007; Angola (2007) and Gabon (1975–1994). OPEC had its headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland, in the first five years of its existence. This was moved to Vienna, Austria, on September 1, 1965.

Because at that time OPEC wasn’t in a position to translate it’s economic power into political muscle.

You'll find that the Arab economy will work out just fine. The Arab countries have been buying up US companies. The revenue from Petroleum products in the UEA is less than 10% of the UEA economy.

Dubai has been especially successful in diversification.



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"Because at that time OPEC wasn’t in a position to translate it’s economic power into political muscle."

Yes you will find that they have some political muscle and some economic power. I realise that you Brits are already dhimmis, if you are any indication. If you think that the US will "sacrifice" Israel to make Arabs happy think again. We have learned what Arab/Muslim treachery is all about, even before the Barbary Pirates. Highway robbery only goes so far with us.
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Yes you will find that they have some political muscle and some economic power. I realise that you Brits are already dhimmis, if you are any indication. If you think that the US will "sacrifice" Israel to make Arabs happy think again. We have learned what Arab/Muslim treachery is all about, even before the Barbary Pirates. Highway robbery only goes so far with us.
China has at present the economic power, has that been translated into political power?

Oh, not yet.

Has India got the economic muscle, yes. Has India got the political power.

Again not yet.

You must have practised for days Hasbara1 to be a stupid as you appear.

Hasbara1 I'll let you into a secret...... I'm not a pacifist.

I am also a confirmed atheist, I would not even get to be a dhimmi.
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