To make the rest of the world hate us? Yep and it is working!

Hamas is a large and diverse organisation which has constistently, and largely without state aid, provided superior social, medical and educational services than the corrupt Fatah with all its millions.

Small wonder that the Palestinian people turned to them. Hamas, being such a large organisation, embodies a wide spectrum of views and positions towards Israel but Israeli policies have, and continue, to radicalise Palestinian society and ensure that only the most extreme and militant factions hold sway.

Any signs of moderation by Hamas are firmly snubbed by Israel. How do you expect those more moderate voices within Hamas to gain ascendancy when they only ever return empty-handed?

Gaza is a radical prison camp because Israel wants it that way.

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Already has.
What would happen?..well apparently a Terrorist group called Hamas would instigate a violent bloody coup and use Gaza as a base to launch rocket attacks on Israel daily.

Oh and the left would then blame the victims for being mean and try to portray a Terrorist Organiztion as a-ok.





Only problem I see with this shut down is they say 'for days'...shut it down until its broken.

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hmmm,
Firstly, Palestine is One Land .. Gaza and Westbank (at this time) are the same, so if Israel Killed one in Westbank then Gazan should resist and hit, and the same if Israel Killed one in the Gaza.

Hamas is not a terrorist group.. stop saying that, there's big different between resistance and terrorism.. Did you hear before that hamas killed anybody out side Palestine-Israel Confliction ?!!!

Some say that Terrorists took over Israel and have been launching attacks on their neighbours ever since.

And which victims would that be Dhu2?

And I would never dream of calling the Israeli terrorists A-OK.

Gaza got broken a long time ago.

I knew that you dont believe in democracy do you.

what a hypocrite.

Why haven't any of the other Arab bordering nations helped the Palestinians in their struggles? Why don't Egypt, or Syria help their Arab brothers? I'm confused here;

http://www.boston.com/news/world/afr..._egypt_border/

Militants resist efforts to seal Egypt border
Palestinians flood through new breaches

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Because the "Arabs" aren't one people. There are Egyptians, there are Jordanians, there are Iraqis, there are Iranians, there is Syrians, Yemeni and Saudis. And all of these separate countries have their own agendas and national interests. Lumping all of these countries together is lazy and does not take into account the disparate nature of all those separate countries national interests.

If you are still confused, look in an Atlas and notice that each country is marked up as a separate entity.

I'm sure you made an inadvertent mistake in assuming Iranians were arab. You, being such the expert on the Middle East and all, would know that Iranians are Persian... not Arab... right?

This isn't necessarily what BB is getting at. He's simply asking why is it the sole responsibility of Israel, or the United States and/or the West... to deal with the disposition of Palestinians? I'm no expert, but even I knew that there were Palestinians in Jordan who are no longer there because they were kicked out by their arab "brothers." Why no outcry there?

If you would be so kind as to laying aside your condescention for just a moment and answer BB's question, I'm sure it would be greatly appreciated.

Why aren't other nations making attempts to help out the Palestinians? I was just perusing my Atlas, as so thoughtfully directed to do so by yourself, and wondered why these separate entities haven't decided to contribute land to help with the formation of a sovereign state of Palestine? (Of course, I only wondered this after gazing in wonder at all the pretty colors of the Atlas.)

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Persian, Assyrians, Parsi, yep I am aware, but that was very much the point. The way the west refers to the Middle East as all full of "Arabs", the quote marks was my way of indicating the falseness of that position.

Probably because it was the west that gave their [the Palestinians] land away without asking. And the point I was making is there is no such thing as "Arab Brotherhood".

The question cannot be answered, as it is full of incorrect assumptions in the first place.

Gosh I can feel a bit of condescension coming on.

Because the main financial contributors to the Palestinians is not the US, Israel and the west, it is in fact their Arab Neighbours.

Israel is a negative contributor, that is Israel takes.

Holst Fund and the Palestinian Economic Assistance and Cooperation Exchange.


http://lnweb18.worldbank.org/mna/men...ile/PeaceMemo4


Relief web


http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/rwb.nsf/...256d660050cf7a


http://ocha-gwapps1.unog.ch/rw/rwb.n...8?OpenDocument

http://www.mideasti.org/summary/pale...-disengagement


World Bank


http://siteresources.worldbank.org/I...eportDec06.pdf


http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Sto...991004,00.html




http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a1d8ca5c-a...0779e2340.html


Other useful web resources


The Economics of Palestine

You see SF the Arab world along with Persians have always been contributing. The US is not even in the top 3 contributors. This is why BB's question was an irrelevancy, it showed complete lack of awareness of facts on the ground. Hence condescension was quite in order.