Thread: What is happening between Syria and Turkey?

Originally Posted by Turkic Brat

PKK is s separatist organization which targets civilians that makes it a terrorist group. While syrian opposition groups are also ethnic Arabs and they don't claim separation and they only fight against Syrian forces.

They ain´t better. They use the cities and civilians as shield and are not willing to displace the battles out of the cities. Syrian forces hopefully crush those foreign payed and incited criminals soon.

Turkish jets must not fly into Syrian airspace and it is really a fail of Erdogan to make an international scandal out of it. The F4 was equipped with reconnaissance equipment.

Originally Posted by haydar

Anatolian Alevians are not connected to Arabian Alevians. In Turkey majority is aganist to a war in Turkey and beleives that an operation aganist to Syria is not business of Turkey.
Big majority beleives Turkey don't have to keep a side in this event. However west is pushing Turkey to occupy Syria otherwise nobady care about the Syria.

In Antakya, a cosmopolitan Turkish city on the border with Syria, the Alawite minority has taken sides against Ankara in staunch defense of Bashar al-Assad – dreading their fate if he is toppled.

Rejecting their government’s tough stance and sanctions against Damascus, the group outrightly belies the deadly crackdown that has killed more than 4,000 people in Syria since March, according to U.N. figures.

“We know full well that there is no oppression in Syria,” says Ali Yeral, president of the Ehli Beyt Alawite association in Antakya – summarizing the predominant attitude.

“Of course there are a few small problems ... but you have to allow time for President Bashar al-Assad’s regime to put in place democratic reforms.”

The Alawites form a minority Shiite branch that counts Syria’s ruling Assad family among its adherents.

It has about two million devotees in Syria, strongly represented in the top ranks of the army and the Baath party in power – and hundreds of thousands in Turkey, mainly around Antakya where they retain strong links with their brethren across the border.

Expatriate Alawites have for the most part remained loyal to the embattled regime in Damascus.

“Everything is calm in the (Syrian) cities. There is nothing in (the northwestern town of) Latakia; the people who come here say that they are living normally,” claimed Suheyla Kocak, an actress in the Antakya municipal theatre which has staged numerous plays in Syria.

“Where are the incidents happening? In remote areas, where people are ignorant and where they can easily lose their heads. It is in these types of places where they are fighting and killing each other.”

“Millions of people are on the street to support (Assad’s) reforms,” added Ali Yeral.

“But certain television stations, in particular Al-Jazeera, do everything to ignore it and instead show 200 to 300 members of a bloody terrorist organization demonstrating,” said Yeral.

Lurking behind such denialism may be the threat of reprisals against the Alawites, in Syria and elsewhere, should Assad’s regime fall.

“If Assad is overthrown, it is clear that there will be a massacre of Alawites,” said Yeral.

“After that, Lebanon’s Hezbollah will be in the line of fire, then Iraq, Iran, and this will reach all the way to Turkey and Saudi Arabia.”

Yusuf Mutlu, a restaurant owner, blames the Muslim Brotherhood for the violence in Syria. The movement is banned in Syria and all of its officials live in exile.

“The Muslim Brotherhood are the ones who are creating all of these incidents,” he claimed.

Mutlu said he had little sympathy for the 7,500 Syrian refugees in the Antakya region, with their terrifying tales of the devastation committed by the Syrian army.

Neither was he convinced by Ankara’s calls for Assad to stand down or the wisdom of sanctions against Damascus when relations between Syria and Turkey were warm just a year ago.

“As an Alawite, it hurt me deeply ... that an official with the Turkish Republic commits religious discrimination,” he added, referring to a statement by senior AKP ruling party official Huseyin Celik in September in which he underlined the role of Alawites in Syria’s power structures.

+ Syria unrest fuels local tensions in Turkey http://english.alarabiya.net/article...10/181770.html

Originally Posted by Turkic Brat

PKK is s separatist organization which targets civilians that makes it a terrorist group. While syrian opposition groups are also ethnic Arabs and they don't claim separation and they only fight against Syrian forces.

lets see who the terrorist is , pkk or turkish army !??

Airstrike on Turkey-Iraq border kills 35 people, official says

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http://articles.cnn.com/2011-12-29/m...=PM:MIDDLEEAST

This was a trap attempt by NATO to try and justify military action against Syria. But again, Russia warned them against it.

Russia and possibly China is the only thing preventing NATO from attacking Syria.

I wish Turkey would take a neutral stance, or try to get both opposition and Ba'ath to settle this diplomatically, like they did initially.

Turkey does not need a war, and neither does the region. This F4 incident, along with supporting Syrian rebels in Turkey will not help bring peace for the Syrian people.

Erdogan can't sacrifice Turkish lives for US and "Israel" interests. And Turkey has no benefit going to war with Syria.

These two countries used to be strong allies, now look... Sad to see Muslim countries manipulated so easily to hate eachother. We all need to wake up.

Originally Posted by OJLeb

These two countries used to be strong allies, now look... Sad to see Muslim countries manipulated so easily to hate eachother. We all need to wake up.

I'm not really sure why you are making a "religious" thing out of this? Hence the reason I disliked your posts.

Turkey has been a member of NATO for about half a century.

Originally Posted by janpor

I'm not really sure why you are making a "religious" thing out of this? Hence the reason I disliked your posts.

Turkey has been a member of NATO for about half a century.

Because when it boils down to it, the Syrian civil conflict is a religious conflict wrapped in a political one. It is primarily Sunni VS Shia all over again. Saudi and Qatari Sunni support the Sunni rebels, Iran Shia supports the Alawite government. And Turkey is a Sunni majority country which happens to be involved in the conflict.

The political part comes from NATO involvment and a war, with "Israel", against Iran after Assad is removed.