Any thoughts??

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080212/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

The article's third paragraph thus enlightens readers. . .

>>> The disarray undermines the purpose of last year's U.S. troop "surge" — to bring down violence enough to allow the Iraqi government and parliament to focus on measures to reconcile differences among minority Sunnis and Kurds and the majority Shiites. Violence is down dramatically, but political progress languishes.

The cynical view ponders if the current Secretary of State informed Iraq's leadership in sufficiently stern terms to convey that purpose for which the US spills its blood and burns its treasure. The same view warns that the reason violence is down is that factions are quietly awaiting our departure* and a chance to control one fourth of Earth's known oil.

* - A metaphysical certainty, Mr. McCain's “100-year” delusion notwithstanding.

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Stay the course....

Oh that would be dumb if the course is producing no results....

Personally, I don't think disbanding and having a new parliment would necessarily be a bad thing, since this one has done nothing.

The real issue at hand is what to do to get the Iraqi government o actually govern.

One idea is to keep throwing US blood and money at the problem and hope it goes away. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Another is to force the government to respond to the people by no longer proppping them up with American blood and money. There certainly can be an arguement is that all be are acheiving with our blood and money is DELAYING political progress in Iraq.

It would cause the new elections which where expected to occur at the end of this year or last but where delayed.


Funny how the left lauds every failute they can imply yet ignore the facts of the situaions becasue it highlight how full of crap they are.

Nothing in that paragraph is possible if you believe the BS lines from people like HardDriver.

Surge worked and they deny it..people like that are inherently worthless.

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"We make war that we may live in peace"
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever."
"War critics can no longer credibly argue that we are losing in Iraq, so now they argue the war costs too much."
"Oderint dum metuant"
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=RnfflRNpwKA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=j-QYIP7o2-A

We talked a lot about armchair generals in Iraq, but in the end we knew that we were there because our nation asked it of us, not because some think they know how to play the game better than the players.
I would suggest to you DuH2, and others of a like mind to go to Iraq and see for yourselves how well the surge is working

Yeah well 2 things.
1. I don't believe you.
2. Facts of the situation discredit the leftist claims.

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McCain 2008
"We make war that we may live in peace"
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever."
"War critics can no longer credibly argue that we are losing in Iraq, so now they argue the war costs too much."
"Oderint dum metuant"
http://members.cox.net/neddy/bobhope_kerfuffles.wmv
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RnfflRNpwKA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=j-QYIP7o2-A

Just 2 things?
No stinging rebuttal?
Where are your facts discrediting any claims?
And on the I don't believe you part, your opinion and a buck fifty will buy me a cup of coffee
Would you perhaps like a personal guided tour of the wonder that is Iraq?
Or would you rather sit in front of your computer and claim I'm not a REAL soldier?

Why don't you do a search and find the facts I have provided on Iraq..you'll find alot of them.
Unlike the glaring LACK of facts offered up by those who claim things as you do.

..and you further helped confirm my view that you're a fake.

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McCain 2008
"We make war that we may live in peace"
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever."
"War critics can no longer credibly argue that we are losing in Iraq, so now they argue the war costs too much."
"Oderint dum metuant"
http://members.cox.net/neddy/bobhope_kerfuffles.wmv
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RnfflRNpwKA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=j-QYIP7o2-A

So, there are reports the government might disband... Duh must ignore.

There are reports that the Al-Sadr might not extend the cease fire after the original 6-month end date that is in a few weeks.
http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...712055,00.html
Duh must ignore.

There has been no progress by the Iraqi government in all of the benchmarks, objectives and basic duties that they should be working on.
Duh must ignore.

Violence is better, but credit certainly needs to go to Sunni leaders and Shia leaders as well as the surge... Dug must ignore everything but credit it all the the military...

There is no timetable for success in Iraq... Duh must ignore. Duh must ignore.

There are more terrorists in Iraq than when we got there.. Duh must ignore.

Then if you ignore all these FACTS, then sure, then you can believe whatever you want and call Iraq a resounding success.

The truth is that the military has been put into an untenable situation. Our military is the greatest on earth. But acting as babysitter to the Iraqi government and occupying a nation against the will of it's people is not something that any military is going to do well. Look at the palistinian territories, they have been fighting their occupation for decades. And as long as we occupy Iraq, we face the same fate... fighting a guerella war against roadside bombs and snipers.

The solution, the "new way forward" is to actually have a new way forward, rather than just keep doing the same thing, sacraficing our soldiers lives and our money to "buy time" for Iraq to get their (*)(*)(*)(*) together. The new way forward is to get Iraqis to fight for themselves. Unless that country is willing to stand up for itself, there can never be success there.

YOUR facts? I'll bet there's lots of those. I tend to call them hot air.
Your view is just that, YOUR view.
Since you seem to have all the facts, you must have my military records, or at least a letter from the DOD stating that I'm a fake.
No? Intuition maybe? Or my personal VIEW, more hot air.