Well, do you think that the current Jewish majority of white skinned Ashkenazim, eastern Jews, have any more claim to the land? Their link to the ancient Israelites of the bible is more than questionable.


Israel has already forced the Arabs into a much much smaller area than what the UN set as boundaries and is currently building a huge wall around them! The best the Palestinians can do is to throw stones and to fire primitive unguided rockets while the Israelis have one of the best equipped armies in the world paid for by the US tax payer!

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At the first point I think generally claims on the region as a result of genetic background at shakey. I was just pointing out if you want to play that game that it does not neccesarily favor the Arab.

At the second I know. That's why I support the idea of Isreal giving it back in the form of trying to get the Arabs within Isrrael proper into that zone and then giving the whole thing to the Palestinian Authority. (If there is one.)

Wrong, and Wronger yet.

The Jews had been promised a Larger State by the British and League of Nations (UN predecessor).. but because of the 'Lawrence of Arabia Legacy' Arabs ended up with more that there fair share of the mandate and Ottoman Empire
Probably now ruling 105+% of their 'range'.. places like Kurdistan denied rule and given to a Saudi Prince as part of 'Iraq'

The Ottomans Did own the land I indicated (about 2/3 of future 'Israel').
It was owned, AS I SAID, by No Arab.
It was clled miri Belonging to the Emir for the 400 years of Ottoman rule and most of it virtually Uninhabitable- The Negev desert- perhaps a very sparse bedouins who still live there.
Sparse as was All of Palestine which now contains 20x the residente it did 150 years ago.

'Palestine' was a mere Political Map designation since the Romans Conquered ISRAEL (Judea and Samaria) and REnamed it 'Palestina'.
Since that time and until the REformation of Israel- there has never been a self-Governing 'palestine'.

The Jews never completely left Israel either- living continuously there for 3300 years- in small number after the Roman conquest and until the beginning of the 19th C.. when.. by 1840 Jews were the Largest Consituent in places like Jerusalem.
(Documention available)
Wrong Again!

LOL

Ooof
and yet more coming about the 'white' 'unrelated' Ashkenazim

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Really, Israel is just such a small patch of dirt. It belongs to the Jews who have been dispossessed of the land more than once in the last 2 or 3 thousand years. It now belongs to them again. Let them have it. If there are any Palestinians or Arabs or Muslims who can't live with the Jews, let them depart from Israel, and the Golan Heights, Gaza and the West Bank for that matter. There is plenty of land, plenty of Arab countries, plenty of Islamic countries from which they can choose. Jews have only one Jewish country. It's theirs, they have earned it, and they have paid for it in blood more so than any other people in history.

Let it be.

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Terrorism, lies, murder, and ethnic cleaning you call "earned"?


And don't forget the USS Liberty and the "5 dancing Israelis" on 9/11! The Jews have demonstrated themselves over and over again to be unworthy and incapable to have their own country, Israel is no country but a parasitic center of world gangsterism the whole world has to pay for!

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The above excerpt in Quotion by <<<Personal Attack Removed>>> Skeptikos from:

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/6194

Source: David Duke

which he Dishonestly left off/PLAGIARIZED.

Remember, this guy complains my sources are zionist.. then he witholds the Link to HIDE his source and even shortened to leave off fellow Jew Hater.. David Duke.

Yesterday it was Infamous #1 or #2 anti-Jew Hate site 'JewWatch' and telling us Jews have been dishonest from time immemorial.

There doesn't seem to be a bottom for him in posting morals or Racism.

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there was never a country called palestine. thus palestine was an area that was part of syria. thus the oppressed were syrians.

just what does this mean: Muhammad said, "War is deceit."

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To sum up: the fact that Arab leaders of the nationalist movement sold land to Jews was well-known in the Arab community. The political leadership tried unsuccessfully to suppress this information. The subject came alive when Lewis French stated in a memorandum to the Government that certain members of the Moslem Supreme Council had sold land to Jews and that the Arab leadership had no objection to such sales of surplus land.


excerpted from: The Claim of Dispossession : Jewish Land Settlement and the Arabs, 1878-1948 by Arieh L Avneri

got to this source for a list of particulars. ie those who knowingly sold land to zionists.

here are some supporting quotes

King Abdallah, My Memoirs Completed, (London, Longman Group, Ltd., 197, pp. 88-89.
In his memoirs, Transjordan's King Abdullah wrote:


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It is made quite clear to all, both by the map drawn up by the Simpson Commission and by another compiled by the Peel Commission, that the Arabs are as prodigal in selling their land as they are in useless wailing and weeping (author's emphasis).


from the Peel Commission: Palestine Royal Commission (1937), pp. 241-242.


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The Peel Commission's report found that Arab complaints about Jewish land acquisition were baseless. It pointed out that "much of the land now carrying orange groves was sand dunes or swamp and uncultivated when it was purchased....there was at the time of the earlier sales little evidence that the owners possessed either the resources or training needed to develop the land." Moreover, the Commission found the shortage was "due less to the amount of land acquired by Jews than to the increase in the Arab population." The report concluded that the presence of Jews in Palestine, along with the work of the British Administration, had resulted in higher wages, an improved standard of living and ample employment opportunities.

Skeptikos Examiner

sorry skept.. the number has been officially reduced by 60%, 100.

http://www.deiryassin.org/

we can now get into what really happened at deir yassin. i will use a palestinian arab source.

now for my rebuttal to deir yassin:

Palestinian Arab eyewitnesses have recently admitted that some of their claims about Dir Yassin were deliberate fabrications. The issue of the Jerusalem Report dated April 2, 1998 describes a BBC television program in which Hazem Nusseibeh, an editor of the Palestine Broadcasting Service's Arabic news in 1948, admits that he was told by Hussein Khalidi, a prominent Palestinian Arab leader, to fabricate claims of atrocities at Dir Yassin in order to encourage Arab regimes to invade the expected Jewish state.

According to the Jerusalem Report:

Nusseibeh "describes an encounter at the Jaffa Gate of Jerusalem's Old City with Deir Yassin survivors and Palestinian leaders, including Hussein Khalidi... 'I asked Dr. Khalidi how we should cover the story,' recalled Nusseibeh. 'He said, "We must make the most of this." So we wrote a press release stating that at Deir Yassin children were murdered, pregnant women were raped. All sorts of atrocities.' "

The BBC program then shows a recent interview with Abu Mahmud, who was a Dir Yassin resident in 1948, who says:

... the villagers protested against the atrocity claims: We said, "There was no rape." [Khalidi] said, "We have to say this, so the Arab armies will come to liberate Palestine from the Jews."

Khalidi was one of the originators of the "massacre" allegation in 1948. It was Khalidi's claims about Jewish atrocities in Dir Yassin that were the basis for an article in the New York Times by its correspondent, Dana Schmidt (on April 12, 194, claiming a massacre took place. The Times article has been widely reprinted and cited as "proof" of the massacre throughout the past 50 years.

Nusseibeh, who is a member of one of Jerusalem's most prominent Arab families and presently lives in Amman, told the BBC that the fabricated atrocity stories about Dir Yassin were:

"...our biggest mistake," because "Palestinians fled in terror" and left the country in huge numbers after hearing the atrocity claims.

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_ind..._diryassin.php