A map that tells more than 1000 words:

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Is it any wonder why the palistinian people are in a death match with the people they concider their enemy! Its one thing to be recognized in the world community , but it is another to take land without reconciliation to the plaistinian people. Its as thou they are now inb the reverse role of the Israelies as the people without a home. This conflict will NEVER end. I say that with supream confidense because there is no way Isreal will seede the land back to the real owners!

There has never been any such thing as Palestine so those maps are obviously inaccurate. Further, much of Israel was purchased from local arabs who thought it was worthless and then tried to steal it back later after the Jews redeemed it with hard work. If the arabs didn't want to risk losing land they controlled then they shouldn't have attacked Israel. They did, they lost, and they therefore lost land. This land is still a small fraction of the arab lands in the region as well. There is no way Israel should give any of it back without a comprehensive peace agreement guaranteeing Israel security from muslim terrorism. Otherwise, it will just be another encouragement to the muslim terrorists and they don't need any more encouragement.

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Qur'an:8:39 Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.
Qur'an:8:67 It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land.
Qur'an 8:12 I will terrorize the unbelievers...Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.
Qur'an 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

First of all the loss of land was due to the Palestinians not being organized. Yes there were legitimate sales, but land was also seized during regional conflicts and looked at by the Israeli’s as spoils of the conquest. (Not right)
It is difficult for some people to look at a conflict from the vantage point of different societies. In yours and the Israeli side you see a terrorist nation trying to concur Israel. From the Palestinian side they look at them selves as oppressed and Patriotic in terms of the fight to regain their lands. It is impossible to say who is right and who is wrong. I tell people who just default to calling people and regions terroist societies , that the American Revolutionist were concidered Terrorist at that time in history , But to you and me they were Patriots fighting against the Imperialist from Great briton. Its all about preception!

The Americans fighting for independence from England didn't murder civilians in cold blood.

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Qur'an:8:39 Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.
Qur'an:8:67 It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land.
Qur'an 8:12 I will terrorize the unbelievers...Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.
Qur'an 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

Deceptive Maps in the Title post of this string... and certainly last is baffling and not even what's been proposed as Final 'Palestine'.

The biggest 'Loss' on the Skeptikos Propaganda Maps (Maps 1-2) was the UN partition and shows a LIE about what is "Palestinian Land".. since about 2/3 of what was shown as "Palestinian", like the Half-alone of Israel that is the Negev, was State Land passing from the Ottomans to the British to The Jews, owned by No Arab.

Here are some with more perspective



The Maps leave out the Fact that 77% of British Mandate 'Palestine' was lopped and made Jordan, no Jews allowed.




Jordan is 70% 'Palestinian'.
Leaving the other 23% divided roughly 13-10 for the Jews.

Meaning the Arabs aka Palestinians got 87% of Mandate Palestine.
(the Pink AND Red Areas)

And آ½ of the Jews 13% was the Negev Desert. (lower آ½ the light Blue Area above)
So Jews really got about 6% of the usable land of the Original Mandate.
AND unlike in The surrounding states... Arabs still live in/make up 20% of Current Israel's population within that land.

Again, and Also Missed on those maps? 2/3 of what became Israel was State Land, passing from the Ottomans, to the British, to the Jews; owned by NO Arab.
This Includes the Half alone of Israel that was/Is the Negev Desert.

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Yes, the lower half of that little that red spot/Israel- is the Negev Desert, State Land under the Ottomans, owned by No Arab. (and about 15-20% more that was also state land). And 20% of the population of the upper half of the Red Dot- is Arab.

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"One always finds in Palestine Arabs who have been in the country only a few Weeks or a few Months...Since they are themselves strangers in a strange land, they are the loudest to cry: 'Out with the Jews!...Amongst them are to be found representatives of every Arab country: Arabs from Transjordan, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Egypt, the Sudan and Iraq.

Ladislas Farago, Palestine at the Crossroads (New York: Putnam 1937) p17

Oh, I always thought it was the name of the state the Romans created already around 2000 years ago! But no, let us believe the Jewish propaganda lies, who cares about all those maps with the name Palestine on it!

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In times of universal deceit the love of truth becomes the most radical of all ideologies.

Still a Caveman? - Your Mind is Controlled - The Brainwashing of the West - Your thoughts are not your own

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No, but the Jews fighting for their terrorist regime murdered British in cold blood! The British were infact bombed out of Palestine by Jewish terrorism!

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In times of universal deceit the love of truth becomes the most radical of all ideologies.

Still a Caveman? - Your Mind is Controlled - The Brainwashing of the West - Your thoughts are not your own

Veritax Vox Liberabit

The Ottomans were a colonial power, they did not own the land, they simply conquered it and oppressed the native Palestinians!



After the downfall of the Ottoman Empire Palestine went under British rule because the Arabs were tricked, they were promised independence for fighting the Turks in ww1 but the treacherous British did not stand to their word. And after ww2 the British gave Palestine, a land which never belonged to them in the first place, to the Jews in return for getting the US into the war (Balfour Declaration)

Fact is that Palestine is a land with a long history inhabitated by Arabs since at least 700 years!

http://www.israelipalestinianprocon....roduction.html

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In times of universal deceit the love of truth becomes the most radical of all ideologies.

Still a Caveman? - Your Mind is Controlled - The Brainwashing of the West - Your thoughts are not your own

Veritax Vox Liberabit

I'd believe Arabs eventually came to control the area after the Jews got kicked out. But the Jews controlled it before then. I don't think it's known precisely who the Canninites were or which ethnic groups represent them now, but I don't believe they were the genetic predicesors of the modern Palestinians.

Really the region is one that's been conquered and reconqured many many times. It might be the region that has changed hands the most between different civilizations in all the world.

And now both sides think they deserve whatever the maximum extant of their control was.

Personally I think Israel should allow/encourage/force the Arabs within Israel proper into the probably very nice settlement regions and make the officil boarders the UN approved ones.