That you are an unashamed bigot. Yes I got that the first time.

I think maybe you missed english comprehension 101. And I have to say I've never seen such an unashamed hater of a Semitic people on any board I've been to, and that's saying something. I always find it weird how the haters run under the banner of defending semitic people while burning them down at the same time. It's like a rosy little enclave.

You don't need to pretend to like us Jews just to let your Muslim hating streak get a free pass. you can admit you really hate all of us, because in my experience that's always been the real truth with people like you. Come out of the closet.

Ouch, I realise you might be head of your KKK chapter but I'm sure there's a rule in the clan about not letting your front slip when you talk in public.

Oh, so the Israelis are committing genocide. I hadn't heard of that. I wonder if they've reached the 6 million point that Hitler got to against them.

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You can never know the position of a liberal and the logic behind it at the same time,
because the closer you get to finding one, the more unknown the other one becomes.

I offer you proof that my uncertainty principle stands true:

Did i say genocide? No. I said ethnic cleansing which is what the proposition is. That's not Hitler, only Stalin, Milosevich and those guys. Mere lightweights.

Let's take a reality check for a second. If someone proposes pushing an entire ethnicity out of an area, I think that's quite comfortably described as ethnic cleansing. Like I said, the ideal of some illustrious people. There's no fallacy there, it's the idea and the history.

The reason I find that ideal reprehensible, is precisely because it is the mindset which created Jewish troubles. Romans wanted them gone, babylonians wanted them gone, and what is happening here is the pattern repeating and it would bring about the same result, more misery. only the names have changed. I see people here trying to be saints out one side of their mouths while talking evil with the other.
Israel is not served by besmirching its reputation by crushing the remaining inhabitants of the area. That would be a monkey on their back for all time, no matter the immediate gains.

Oh and distasteful holocaust reference. It doesn't suit you, when I'm guessing you have more game than that.

Fine, I'll go with your definition of the term, ethnic cleansing meaning moving people out of an area. But the Palestinians are bringing this on themselves. They are killing Jews because they are Jewish. They have protests against Israel and I have seen videos of signs they have held up that say "God Bless Hitler" and things to that effect. The Jews have been pushed out of every country they have gone to in the past, and now that they have formed their own country they finally have a place where they can be safe. But wait, they are still being attacked. How is this fair to the Jews? I just can't see it.

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The White Fox Uncertainty Principle states that:
You can never know the position of a liberal and the logic behind it at the same time,
because the closer you get to finding one, the more unknown the other one becomes.

I offer you proof that my uncertainty principle stands true:

The only problem for you is Israel/Jews do NOT fit even your definition of 'Ethnic Cleansing'.

What "Entire area" are Jews pushing 'Palestinians' out of? A few percent of the West Bank as a Buffer since the Palestinains started a War/Intifada in 2000?
This is quite legal, even foreseen, in Resolution 242 (see that string)

One set of 'Palestinians/Arabs' make up 20% of Israel's citizens and no one is pushing them anywhere.

Israel just Gave Back Gaza in It's 'entirety' to some other Palestinians only to have it turned into 'terror central'
What is that?
Reverse cleansing? Clearing an area for them?

Israel is in a POLITICAL/Border, Not Ethnic, dispute, with a subset of Arabs (ethnicity) recently taken the name 'palestinians'. In fact, even a subset of Palestinians (not the ones who live in Israel, Jordan, or Gaza) and does not persecute or cleanse based on ethnicity.

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I didn't say they were. i was merely discussing the other poster's statement. You need to go back and read what was being discussed. He made a comment, and I said his comment amounted to ethnic cleansing. later he agreed that it was what he wanted and joined the ranks of some super people. I admire honesty, even if I don't respect the concept of ethnic cleansing.

Well, to tell the truth, they do, but as victims rather than perps. There was once around 1 million Jews living in Arab lands, but all but a few thousand have been completely clensed form Arab lands.

All the disingenuous Arab propaganda aimed at creating the impression that it is Jews who have indulged in ethnic clensing is but a mask to hide the fact it is actually Arabs who have done so.

This is a fallacy. In the world of cause and effect, Jewishness is not the raison d'etre for Palestinian woes, but now it has become a defacto face of it, much as uninformed pundits see Muslim-ness as the source of their own woes.
In reality there has only ever been a demographic crisis in Palestine/Israel, and it has had more to do with the influx of Europeans than religious hatred, although the latter makes great copy.

I never met a muslim who wanted to kill me because I was Jewish, but I met a lot who think of the Jews in the same way as people here view Muslims, a catch all concept to describe their fears and anxieties. It's the human way, to have boxes for things, but reality, people to people it's so much bs. I never met anybody so accommodating as Muslims in their own homes.

I agree that Israel deserves to exist, how could I not? But it's delusion to pretend the conflict is about anything more at its base level than a land war. One side has been pushed out and continues to be pushed out, the other has itself been pushed from place to place. It's that easy. It's sad that both sides are from the same race of peoples.

Israel actively sought a return of Jewish peoples from Arab lands in the 50's and 60's. This is no secret, and even Israeli historians don't pretend that this wasn't a serious campaign. Iraq is a classic case, where mossad actively fostered the 'return' of Iraqi jews through a campaign of bombing synagogues, embarrassingly exposed. There was a memo.

I accept that the environment has become more and more difficult for Jewish people in Arab countries, but this owes a lot to the history that took place during that period where the palestinian demographic crisis polarised the region.
Nevertheless, it's not uncommon for arabs to state that the sephardic Jews fitted in well with the arabs, but the ashkenazim , due to their european trappings and outlooks were a much more difficult prospect. Iranian jews are often held up by arabs as being exceptionly easy to have dealings with for example. Iran allows unimpeded travel for Iranian jews to visit relatives in Israel.

Consider this; in the space of only 30-49 years the region of Palestine was turned on its head demographically by a european influx. That causes trepidation anywhere. as much as I believe in Israel as an entity, I don't see anything unusual about there being such a strong reaction to such a drastic cultural change in the area.

Right, I openly and fully support Israel and you call me a klansman.

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