You always hear and read about the "Youth" of Iran being "Pro-Western." Well here they are RAW, ready to defend their country against the colonial West:

http://irannegah.com/Video.aspx?id=720

- Hichkas, Pioneer of Iranian Rap releases New Music Video (w./ Subtitles!) from the Streets of Tehran for the Anti-War Song "Ye Mosht Sarbaz" (Bunch of Soldiers)

P.S. For those of you who do not know when seeing the video what 021 is, it is the Area/City Code for Tehran

That's hilarious! Iran has their own version of 'wiggers'!!!

good find. that's quite new.
look out, iranian soldiers may be not so powerful, but these gangsters, they're dangerous!! just kidding you know!

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BillyBob is just mad because these youth arent putting Vaseline on their butts and bending over for the US to come invade. Sorry BillyBob are youth are much brighter and smarter than that. They recognize Uncle Sam for what he is. A money hungry BEAST!

I never bought this crap about iran's young mostly being good muslims. islam itself is inherently violent and evil. the only good muslim is a muslim that doesn't follow islam, which means they really aren't muslim. They might still call themselves a muslim for some very strange reason but it is impossible to have a truly good muslim. If they follow islam, they follow evil. Its just like the nazis. The only good nazis were those who didn't believe in nazism and tried to either lay low to survive or actually fought against the evil ideology. Any good muslim would fight against islam, and really they should pick another name for themselves that distinguished themselves from the evil of islam, like reformed muslim, or civilized arab, or something different from the dirty word muslim.

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Qur'an:8:39 Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.
Qur'an:8:67 It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land.
Qur'an 8:12 I will terrorize the unbelievers...Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.
Qur'an 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

OK, so fill me in again. Which religion is the good one? I'm having difficulty telling them apart so a few pointers would be good.


I'm also confused how a good Muslim would fight against Islam. The two are sort of the same thing. It's like, 'a good christian is one who hates and fights against the ideals of christ'. Sort of redundant.

Don't be confused!
HERE is how a 'Good Muslim' would/Does fight against Islam-
and she and Other reformers Lives are in Danger Every Day for Saying just How.


Irshad Manji: Denial is scourge of Islam
August 23, 2005

DEAR Prime Minister John Howard,

Today you meet 14 of Australia's top Muslim clerics at the Islamic summit. As my own Prime Minister in Canada recently did, you'll be asking for their support in the effort to stop Islamist terror.

But sir, as a reform-minded Muslim, I urge you to keep this in mind: Dialogue will not be enough. You'll need to extract honesty about the practice of Islam today. And for that you'll have to move beyond platitudes to ask pointed questions.

Why are Westerners, both Muslim and non-Muslim, being held hostage by what's happening between the Palestinians and the Israelis?

What's with the stubborn streak of anti-Semitism in Islam?

Who's the real coloniser of Muslims, the US or Saudi Arabia?

Above all, why did the frenzy of fatwas against terror begin only recently?
After New York. After Kabul.
After Bali. After Beslan.
After Baghdad. After Beirut.
After Madrid. After Moscow.
After Istanbul. After London.
Why has clerical condemnation taken so bloody long?

While the London bombings have roused many Muslims from our slumber, we still have trouble. The trouble with Islam today is that literalism is mainstream.

Even moderate Muslims take the Koran as the final word of God: unfiltered, unchanged and unchangeable.
This Supremacy Complex inhibits us from asking hard questions about what happens when faith becomes dogma.
Such a path can lead only to a dead end of more violence.

Please ask the imams: Is this the justice they seek for the world that God has leased to us all? If it's not, then why don't more of them say so publicly?

What they're bound to say is that Muslims are the targets of a backlash. It's true that from time to time we're subject to hate. Our community leaders are adroit at showing us how to assert our rights, something most of us wouldn't have in Islamic countries. In the spirit of reciprocity, it's worth asking: What about the Koran's incitement of hate against Jews? Shouldn't Muslims who invoke the Koran to justify anti-Semitism be open to a lawsuit? Or would this amount to more backlash? What makes Muslims righteous and everybody else racist?

Which brings me to the R-word: Racist. I beg you Not to back off if you hear it. Remind your accusers that in the past 100 years alone, more Muslims have been tortured and murdered at the hands of other Muslims than at the hands of any foreign imperial power. That's not to deny Western colonialism. It's to point out that colonialism comes in many shades and colours. When you stand up for human rights in Islam, the people you're helping are ordinary Muslims. What's so racist about that? Ask the imams.

They'll want to assure you that a faith that violates human rights isn't true Islam. Excellent. That's why you're meeting them: because you believe that Muslims are capable of being more thoughtful and humane than the terrorists suggest.

But for the sake of an honest discussion, please challenge the clerics to come clean about the Islam they reflexively defend.

Is this Islam in its real form or Islam as an ideal? Let's face it; everything is wonderful as an ideal. Communism is egalitarian as an ideal. Capitalism is fair as an ideal. The US constitution guarantees liberty and justice for all as an ideal. Muslims know the reality is different. As people of conscience, Muslims have to address Islam's realities, too.

The prophet Mohammed would have embraced this distinction between the real and the ideal. When he was asked to define religion, he reportedly replied that religion is the way we conduct ourselves towards others. A fine definition, simple without being simplistic. Yet, by that definition, how we Muslims behave, not in theory but in actuality, is Islam, which means our complacency is Islam. It also means the power is ours to restore Islam's better angels, those who care about the human rights of women and minorities.

To do that, though, we have to snap out of our denial. By insisting that there's Nothing the matter with Islam today, we're sweeping the Reality of our Religion under the rug of Islam as an ideal, thereby absolving ourselves of responsibility for our fellow human beings, including Muslims, in Australia and beyond.

Prime Minister, you have a sterling opportunity to tell the imams that you won't be hoodwinked by silky-smooth chatter. Diplomacy is not accountability. Winning this war will require one more than the other.

http://www.Muslim-Refusenik.com/news...-05-08-22.html


Bravo Irshad! Now you know "how a Good Muslim Fights Islam". (and liberal Moral Relativism/equivalence)

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There's no moral relativism in saying that someone who fights against Islam is not a muslim.


All you have stated is that reformers are trying to adjust the way people are interpreting and acting on it.

Christians don't fight christianity, but they can change its practice. If they fought against Christianity, absolute, as elenor implies, then they aren't actually Muslims, but anti-Muslims. It's like saying a good American is one who fights against being American....like, umm, what???

It's absurd to say that good muslims are the ones who fight Islam not because it's an ideological false statement, but because it is a syntactical one. I appreciate all the rah rah and whatnot but it's just bad english.

1. You asked, brought up the apparent contradiction of How a good Muslim would fight against Islam.
I showed how.

She is Fighting Islam as it is Practised and Interpreted by the Mainstream NOW.. doing so IS fighting it.

2. There IS Moral Relativism (nice try on changing what I was referring to) in saying that criticism of Islam is like Criticism of other religions... and that you "call it out" equally. (at least against Muslims you have)

Islam is Not at, or even Near, the same stage of secularism or liberality as other religions and it's questionable whether True Islam Can be.
Thus eleanor has a point and it's Not 'Racist' to point out Islam has a Specific and more serious problem than other religions.. despite YOUR previous PC attempts at criticizing those "Bigots" equally.
(Manji also adresses this)

I am giving the benefit of the doubt by posting the single Digit percent like Manji, who think of themselves as reformers but may indeed be Apostate/Fighting Islam. (an Islamic Capital Crime).
Perhaps only a Hundred years.. or 500 will tell.
I wish the World had the luxury of time in this age of WMD.

3. "It's absurd to say that good muslims are the ones who fight Islam not because it's an ideological false statement..
Again, Not at all.
Totally Fallacious statement on your part.

It's a practical statement fom a Western point of view and from the point of view of the author/a Muslim herself.

4. THIS is the Moral Relativism I do refer to and which virtually all Westerm Liberals, and especially Leftists are guilty and which again brings home whether Islam is even Fightable from Within.
Someone who doesn't think it's fightable from within/Left but isn't that far from Manji in actuality:
So we have Two people, one ex-Muslim, one 'reformer' who point to the SAME Problems with Mainstream Islam.
Mainstream Islam IS Islam.
One feels it can be fixed the other fundamentally flawed.

One of the basic problems of Liberals and Leftists is the "All religions are the same" routine, and that's it's Bigoted to criticize one and not the other.
This is Incorrect and shows the shallowest of PC-ism and a complete Lack of understanding of Islam. But please, feel free to try and 'Syntactic' it away!

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