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Old 05-23-2008, 01:10 PM
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"Palestinians" [are an] Arab people no one heard of before 1967 before Israeli governments certified this piece of propaganda... As has been noted many times before, prior to 1948, that is before Jews had begun to call themselves Israelis, the ONLY persons known as "Palestinians" were Jews, with the Arabs much preferrring to identify themselves as part of the great Arab nation.

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"...Palestine does not belong to the "Palestinians" and never did. They did not even call themselves Palestinians until the middle 1960s. Before that, the word "Palestinian" meant "Jewish," while the local Arabs called themselves simply "Arabs."
The creation of the PLO by Gamal Abdul Nasser in 1964 was a brilliant ploy to distort the parameters of the dispute, largely for propaganda purposes.
It was inconvenient to have a conflict between 20-odd Arab states with an area 530 times greater than Israel, a population more than 30 times greater than Israel's and enormously richer natural resources.
Far better to invent a "Palestinian" nation that would be the eternal "underdog," - a nation consisting partly of Immigrants from Syria and other Arab countries who came to benefit from the rapidly growing economy Zionist Jews created..."

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"There is no such country [as Palestine]! 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented!"

- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, a local Arab leader, to the Peel Commission, 1937


"..There is No language known as Palestinian. There is No distinct Palestinian culture.
There has Never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians.
Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another Recent Invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of 1% of the landmass.
But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today. Greed. Pride. Envy. Covetousness. No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough....""

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Old 05-23-2008, 03:54 PM
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The Jews should round up all 'palestinians' and deport them back to Syria. Or just shoot all those murderous savages and get it over with.

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Still beating this dead horse?

Palestine is a region and a larger one than historical Israel. It can be said to be inclusive, or it can be said to overlap, or intersect or any number of variations, but the word is extremely old and not confined to description or exclusion of habiru tribes. Places like gaza have been around as long as any other on the map, their populations carried away or dwindled along with everybody else by the babylonians. You keep looking for exclusive claims bele. There are none in the region. Every people there has been pushed, conquered, shoved, dominant or recessive at one time or another. The area was owned and dominated by egypt far longer than anybody can lay claim to, and the canaanites were not evapourated by any event but are as much a part of the equation of peoples there as any other.
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The Jews should round up all 'palestinians' and deport them back to Syria. Or just shoot all those murderous savages and get it over with.



Should they? what should the 'jews' do with the non-jewish Israeli population?
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Guess what if you are not strong enough to keep your territory you loose it. It has been that way since the begining of time. The Arabs can cry all they want, but when all is said and done they lost.
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Should they? what should the 'jews' do with the non-jewish Israeli population?
If they are arabs, deport them. If they don't want to be deported, shoot them.
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If they are arabs, deport them. If they don't want to be deported, shoot them.
LOL. You advocate the deportation or execution of bone-fide, 100% Israeli citizens, 20% of the Israeli population, at least one supreme court judge and 10% of the Knesset, all of whom being semitic. I thought you were pro-Israel, but if I was Israeli, I'd be worried to have you as a friend.
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Guess what if you are not strong enough to keep your territory you loose it. It has been that way since the begining of time. The Arabs can cry all they want, but when all is said and done they lost.
Fair enough. That does of course legitimise every action by any side. There's no room to take moral ground once that view is adopted.
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The Jews should round up all 'palestinians' and deport them back to Syria. Or just shoot all those murderous savages and get it over with.

And what sort of method should they use BillyBob?

Perhaps they could emply the same tactics that the NAZIs used in WW2 - you know build concentration camps and gas chambers - is that what you mean?

So how long have you been worshiping the devil?

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Fair enough. That does of course legitimise every action by any side. There's no room to take moral ground once that view is adopted.
this is not the legal case since the finish of WW2 when the UN charters and Geneva conventions were drafted.

As I recall, the USA is a founding member of these charters and conventions and played a huge role in drafting and implementing these international laws.

The UN charter prohibits the annexation of land through the use of violence or aggression" ANd it doesnt matter who instigated the conflict.

It also protects people show were displaced as a result if the conflict - they are given rights of return to their homeland.

So the USA and ISrael have a clear choice. Abide by UN resolutions and charter rules which compels them to leave the Occuppied territories and recognise Palestinian sovereingty

OR

Israel and the USA should resign from the UN officially (THis would make them rogue states - WHICH is what they already are anyway - at least it would be officially and they wouldnt be wasting the rest of the worlds time by the constant US vetoes ont his very simple matter)

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