i think that isreal want to destroy palestinian people because isreal want whole palestine land , dont forget that torah and talmud consider all human kind is animails diserve killing except jews becuse jews are chosen people , becuse they sons of god .
the mumber of kiled palestinians is 5438 during few years
any way this sites show number of palestiians who killed or injured by isreal


*Killed Palestinians by isreal (29 September 2000 - 30 April 2008 )
http://www.pcbs.gov.ps/Portals/_pcbs...ada/damage.htm
*injurd palestinians by isreal
http://www.pcbs.gov.ps/Portals/_pcbs...890e201d58.htm
* damaged palestinian buildings by isreal
http://www.pcbs.gov.ps/Portals/_pcbs...ada/damage.htm

Israeli's want peace. Palestinians want peace. Both claim a connection to the land they co- inhabit.

The situation is bleak--and does not look like peace is on the horizon soon. The United States has not helped the peace process in recent years--with the Bush Administration's policies. Clinton tried and failed. HW Bush tried and failed Carter tried and failed. Bush has been trying too--but he has failed. What is important is that the US is concerned that there be peace in the Middle East--even if we dont' know how to achieve it.

Bush hoped to broker a peace between Israel and Palestine after Iraq had become a democracy. He may have had some good motivation--but the plan has not succeeded and in fact, has made the situation for Israel and the Palestinians farther from peace than ever.

Do not give up hope for peace, even though you are very discouraged. All human beings want the same things. We all want to be happy and not to suffer and we are not wise--we are often blind to the manner in which to bring forth our highest aspirations.

Palestinians are suffering. From your perspective, it appears they suffer more than the Israeli's but we have to take the long view. The Jews were slaughtered by the millions. The nation of Israel is tiny and surrounded by hostile nations. They have been armed to the teeth with the help of our US government. Israel and Israeli's want the same things as Palestinians. They want a home and they want peace and prosperity.

There are so many causes and conditions that have brought the world to the place it sits at this moment.

Your heartfelt plea is heard. You are not alone. We all want the same things. Peace, freedom, happiness and no more suffering. Many Americans are concerned for the loss of life of the Palestinian people. We also are equally concerned for the loss of life of the Jews in Israel. We don't all prefer one over the other. We're are all human beings. We are in this world, together.

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Ah, blind idealism - the WINDS of change shall bring comfort to all hey wind?

So the US entered Iraq and slaughtered almost 910,000 Iraqi civilians in order to set up a democracy there? Youre kidding right

The USA itself isnt a functioning democracy - never has been. The US is actually a PLUTOCRATIC OLIGARCHY which is not even remotely related to what a democracy is.

What re your thoughts on George Bush's statement that GOD told him to invade Iraq?

I would lve to here that all the way from chilly Nepal

Blind idealism? No. Madeleine Albright's diplomacy.

Do any of us know what was really in Bush's mind and heart? Bush went about everything all wrong--and we have stunningly negative results in the Middle East as a result.

Bush's actions have hurt Iraq, strengthened and emboldened Iran, weakened the Palestinian cause, and made the region MORE dangerous for Israel.

Bush supported Israel in some policies that have been disasterous in the region.

My post is an attempt to make a connection with brother--whose words reflect anguish and dispair.

Even any of us give up the possibility of making peace how can we ever create it?

I would have put a flag of Tibet in my post but it wasn't an option. Nepal was as close as I could get.

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I see,
Madelline Albright also said that "its a price that is worth it" when aske about the 500,000 plus children that were to perish in Iraq.

War is evil - and that applies to both sides. the problem with these wars is that boths sides believe that GOD is supporting them spiritually in ther deluded quest for victory

What do you know about TIbet and what it was like there before about 1947?

I know quite a bit actually. I have had many long conversations with Tibetans.

I get the sense you ask that question because you hear mixed things about the past. It was a feudal system--and a society that was organized around Buddhist monasteries as the center.

It was isolated for centuries and the Tibetans did not seek contact with the outside world.

Communist China propaganda is that they 'liberated' Tibet by murdering millions and destroying 6000 monasteries.

I am with you. War is evil.

If you are going to quote Madeleine Albright please put the source so that we can understand the context of her statement. Thank you.

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dear wind
* isreal does not want the peace.
* isreal just waste the time .
* isreal want to occupy the whole arabic area . and the proof is isreal's flag include 2 lines the first one indicate the Nile river and the other indcate the alfrat river (in iraq),and that mean its border .

Right, Israel wants to take over everything from the Nile to The Euphrates!

I love that 'Greater Israel' Conspiracy Theory.

Yes, 5 million Jews will rule 300,000,000 Arabs on 500x the land mass!
Israel already gave back Sinai and Gaza- and even occupying tiny Gaza was a problem. So Doncha think Cairo to Baghdad (and everything in between) would be a problem/Impossibility?

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brother--

The truth is that the Israeli people are weary of war and they want peace, just like the Palestinians do.

Even so, it is not easy to accomplish that goal. There are many obstacles. One of the first, is this kind of ill will that you reflect in your post.

I don't know who is feeding your head with these ideas--but the truth is--that even though the rhetoric on both sides and the actions of the government leaders do not appear peaceful--the vast numbers of Israeli's want peace.

The Palestinians also want peace.

There are many obstacles to peace. One of the first to overcome is the idea that peace will never happen. That's an attitude of conquer or defeat. It won't work.

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Yeah, like they really want to murder every single Palestinian person that is occupying their land. I hadn't heard that conspiracy before.

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