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Old 05-27-2008, 07:59 PM
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Default NO NUKES for Fascist Un-democratic Israeli State!

And of course Israel is the only non-democratic state in the middle Eastern region that has neclear weapons.

Israel has also violated the 4th Geneva Convention and numerous UN resolutions with the assistance of its financial and diplomatic benefactor - WE ALL KNOW WHICH COUNTRY THAT IS DONT WE FOLKS - no wild guesses need there.

No Nules for FASCIST Israeli State
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Sorry you are to late Jimmy Carter already said Isreal has 150 nukes, why do you think the Muslims nations stopped direct confrontation and started using proxy armies?

An I don't think you would know what a facist was if it bit you in the ass
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Are you volunteering to go to Israel to take their nukes?

I thought not...


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Are you volunteering to go to Israel to take their nukes?

I thought not...


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It didnt take too long to flush you out of the wood work.

You say that "I HATE RACISM"

So why do you treat Israelis differently from other people in the region?

the principle of universality - remember that one whit fox?
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You say that "I HATE RACISM"

So why do you treat Israelis differently from other people in the region?
When have I treated the Israelis differently from other people in the region based on their race?

I thought so...
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When have I treated the Israelis differently from other people in the region based on their race?

I thought so...

Well do you have a problem with any other nation in the region having access to nukes?

You advocate Nukes for Israel based on the deterrent principle (whatever that means)

So you wouldnthave a problem if Iran, Kuwait or Saudi Arabia developed Nukes as a deterrent?

Do you know what the words moral consistency mean?
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Well do you have a problem with any other nation in the region having access to nukes?

You advocate Nukes for Israel based on the deterrent principle (whatever that means)

So you wouldnthave a problem if Iran, Kuwait or Saudi Arabia developed Nukes as a deterrent?

Do you know what the words moral consistency mean?
The deterrent principle is that people generally don't want to get nuked, so they won't attack nuclear armed nations. However, any nation that is prone to instability should not have nukes on principle because there is a greater chance that they will actually be used. In addition, nations that adhere to suicidal theories of attacking people (such as Islamic suicide bombers) should not have nuclear weapons just in case they decide that it is worth getting nuked in order to nuke someone. That is dangerous, and should be prevented.
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The deterrent principle is that people generally don't want to get nuked, so they won't attack nuclear armed nations. However, any nation that is prone to instability should not have nukes on principle because there is a greater chance that they will actually be used. In addition, nations that adhere to suicidal theories of attacking people (such as Islamic suicide bombers) should not have nuclear weapons just in case they decide that it is worth getting nuked in order to nuke someone. That is dangerous, and should be prevented.
i gather you also agreed with the Israeli government when it gave nukes to south africa in the early 1980's when it was overseeing the apartheid system?


and I suppose its OK for Pakistan to have nukes - isnt that a islamic state? (and Pakistan is also a miltary dictatorship which the US happily supports - Where are the GOLDEN US ideala underpinning democracy there?)

There is nothing you can do about it anyway - its so simple to build a nuclear weapon anyway - the difficulty is obtaining the fissionable material and the effectiveness of the weapon is highly dependent upon the delivery system (ie missles etc)

Give it about 5 years - 10 years at most
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Well do you have a problem with any other nation in the region having access to nukes?

You advocate Nukes for Israel based on the deterrent principle (whatever that means)

So you wouldnthave a problem if Iran, Kuwait or Saudi Arabia developed Nukes as a deterrent?

Do you know what the words moral consistency mean?
Let's have everyone surrender their nukes. No nukes is good nukes.

It is extremely dangerous enough in the Middle East without any country having nukes.

On the other hand, some argue that Israel would have been wiped out a long time ago without the nuclear deterrent.
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I like this treaty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear...l_and_Pakistan

I certainly don't want a country giving away nuclear arms.
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