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Sunni Man · #21 (**permalink**) 06-28-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SpankyTheWhale

Israel is the only Jewish country in the world.

America is the other Jew country.

i.beletesri · #22 (**permalink**) 06-28-2008, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by brother

* not only israel threatening arabic country , but also israel threatening all world to be exact it threatening all non jews ,
you know because israel implement towrah (which it was written 800 years after mose prophet , and different perfectly form real towrah )
and towrah include text state that the jew should kill all non jew , because they are animals .

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Originally Posted by Sunni Man

America is the other Jew country.

Thank you Both.

I just want to memorialize/highlight those 2 for people/Apologists who say "Islam isn't the problem, It's JUST a few bad apples/terrorists."

Or those who use the term 'Islamophobe'. Which btw, really means 'Informed Infidel'.

No, to those of you who Hollowly Talk about those "misunderstood muslims/Islam"...... I refer you to ... OUR Muslim posters!
Restra!ned as they are on these Kufir boards, and yet in two Different parts of the Muslim World, they share something obvious.

One could hardly imagine two people who would create MORE support for Israel/Jews than the above.
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Sadistic-Savior · #23 (**permalink**) 06-30-2008, 06:08 AM

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Why does Israel deserve nukes?

Because Israel is a democracy.

brother · #24 (**permalink**) 06-30-2008, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sadistic-Savior

Because Israel is a democracy.

really
* israel is illegal state ,before 1948 there is nothing called israel , palestinains exit since 4500 bc in palestine .
* israel has been made rasim against arab inside israel who shape 20percert from it
* israel has been occupied west bank ,gaza strip ,shba farms in lebanon '
and gallel in Syria .
*israel killed more than 5000 palestinains and imprison more than 12000 innocent palestinains including children .
and then you come and tell me that israel is democracy , it is devil state

brother · #25 (**permalink**) 06-30-2008, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SpankyTheWhale

Israel is not a terrorist nation. It just wants to exist in peace. There are countless concessions Israel has made to this end. It does not want to get rid of the countries around it. The same perspective can not be said about the surrounding countries desires for Israel. Hezbollah existed within civilian residential neighborhoods. It was impossible to target Hezbollah without also targeting civilians. Hezbollah used human shields. The terrorists that Israel fights consistently target the civilian population itself, whether it be buses, malls, hotels, restaurants, Bar Mitzvah locations.

i think the truth turn up side down here
* israel is a terrorist country
*arab and palestinian want to exist in peace , There are countless concessions arab has made to this end.
* hezbollah exist in forest and fields , and israel can not discover thier fighters in fields then israel target civilens , and the proof about this is huge amount of killed civilens people , and small number of dead fighters.
and just tell me why israel damaged the bridge and streets and hosptial ?
why israel filled lebanon in cluster bombs ?
* hezbollah did not target mainly civilians , hezbollah mainly target isreali arms ,if you listen to hezbollah leader (hasan nasrollah) he said that hezbollah can target civilians mainly but hezbollah target mainly the arms , and this leader is not lying , dont you forget that Israeli people trust in hasan nasrollah more than their leader .

Sadistic-Savior · #26 (**permalink**) 06-30-2008, 09:14 AM

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Me: Because Israel is a democracy.

really

Really.

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* israel is illegal state

According to who? Who gets to determine if a state is legal or not?

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before 1948 there is nothing called israel , palestinains exit since 4500 bc in palestine .

Source please. Here's mine:

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Though the Biblical tradition holds that the Israelites arrived in Canaan from Egypt, archaeology provides strong evidence that they emerged from among the local population existent there at the time; these events are generally dated to between the 13th and 12th centuries BCE.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palesti...w_Bible_period

Scientific evidence seems to suggest that the Jews were originally native to the region.

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* israel has been made rasim against arab inside israel who shape 20percert from it

Wikipedia seems to indicate that Arab citizens get a vote in Israel just like Jewish citizens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Israel

The CIA world factbook claims Israel has universal suffrage. All that is required is that you are a citizen and 18 or older. I would be willing to look at evidence to the contrary if you have it.

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* israel has been occupied west bank ,gaza strip ,shba farms in lebanon 'and gallel in Syria .

Irrelevant even if true. That doesn't mean they are not a democracy either way.

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*israel killed more than 5000 palestinains and imprison more than 12000 innocent palestinains including children .

Again, irrelevant even if true. That does not mean they are not a democracy.

As a side note, In have seen no evidence that Israel deliberately targets civilians.

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and then you come and tell me that israel is democracy

By definition, it is.

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* israel is a terrorist country

Israel does not deliberately target civilians. That is why it is not a terrorist country.

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*arab and palestinian want to exist in peace , There are countless concessions arab has made to this end.

I believe some arabs and Palestinians want that. Unfortunately, it does not appear that they are the majority.

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* hezbollah did not target mainly civilians , hezbollah mainly target isreali arms ,if you listen to hezbollah leader (hasan nasrollah) he said that hezbollah can target civilians mainly but hezbollah target mainly the arms

If they target civilians at all, even once, they are terrorists. They remain terrorists so long as they continue to justify targeting civilians.

i.beletesri · #27 (**permalink**) 06-30-2008, 10:40 AM

Excellent answer by Sadistic-savior to all of 'brothers' false claims. More claims than sentences in fact.

To add:

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Originally Posted by brother

before 1948 there is nothing called israel , palestinains exit since 4500 bc in palestine .

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Originally Posted by Sadistic Savior

Source please. Here's mine:

Though the Biblical tradition holds that the Israelites arrived in Canaan from Egypt, archaeology provides strong evidence that they emerged from among the local population existent there at the time; these events are generally dated to between the 13th and 12th centuries BCE.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palesti...w_Bible_period

Just to add to this portion on which I've answered answered brother MANY Times on this Ridiculous Claims of his.

Palestinians are not 'Caannites', nor even 'Philistines' (a Greek Sea People), but more closely, Arabs.

ARABs are from ARABia, the ARABian Peninsula, now Saudi ARABia.

Arabs didn't get to be 'Natives' of ANYWHERE else until Agressive Mohammedanaism Swept them thru 'Palestine' and the Rest of Middle East, North Africa and Southern Europ in the 7th-12th Century A.D. Arabs are now the 'Natives' of 22/23 countries.

Jews, as S-S points out, were there in at least 13th-12th B.C.

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Biblical Archaeology: Ancient Israel

Biblical archaeology then turns to the evidence for the early Israelites.
The Merneptah Stele (also known as the Israel Stele) http://www.allaboutarchaeology.org/m...-stele-faq.htm is an upright stone slab measuring over seven feet tall that contains carved hieroglyphic text dating to approximately 1230 BC.
The Egyptian stele describes the military victories of Pharaoh Merneptah and includes the earliest mention of "Israel" outside the Bible.
Although the specific battles covered by the stele are not included in the Bible, the stele establishes extra-biblical evidence that the Israelites were already living as a people in ancient Canaan by 1230 BC.

In addition to the Stele, a large wall picture was discovered in the great Karnak Temple of Luxor (ancient Thebes), which shows battle scenes between the Egyptians and Israelites. These scenes have also been attributed to Pharaoh Merneptah and date to approximately 1209 BC.
The Karnak Temple also contains records of Pharaoh Shishak's military victories about 280 years later. Specifically, the Shishak Relief depicts Egypt's victory over King Rehoboam in about 925 BC, when Solomon's Temple in Judah was plundered. ...

Outside Egypt, we also discover a wealth of evidence for the early Israelites. The Moabite Stone (Mesha Stele) is a three-foot stone slab discovered near Dibon, East of the Dead Sea, that describes the reign of Mesha, King of Moab, around 850 BC. According to Genesis 19, the Moabites were neighbors of the Israelites.
The stele covers victories by King Omri and Ahab of Israel against Moab, and Mesha's later victories on behalf of Moab against King Ahab's descendants.....

The Black Obelisk of Shalmaneser is a seven-foot, four-sided pillar of basalt that describes the victories of King Shalmaneser III of Assyria. Dated to about 841 BC, the Obelisk was discovered in the ancient palace of Nimrud and shows Israel's King Jehu kneeling before the Assyrian king in humble tribute....

The House of David and Solomon's Temple

Biblical archaeology covering ancient Israeli kings and culture received a huge lift in 1994 when archaeologists discovered a stone inscription at the ancient city of Dan, which refers to the "House of David." The House of David Inscription (Tel Dan Inscription) is important because it's the first ancient reference to King David outside the Bible. Specifically, the stone is a victory pillar of a King in Damascus dated about 250 years after David's reign, which mentions a "king of Israel" (probably Joram, son of Ahab) and a king of the "House of David" (probably Ahaziah of Judah).

Another important find is the House of Yahweh Ostracon, which is a pottery shard dated to about 800 BC that contains a written receipt for a donation of silver shekels to Solomon's Temple. Written approximately 130 years after the completion of the Temple, this appears to be the earliest mention of Solomon's Temple outside the Bible.
[...]

http://www.allaboutarchaeology.org/B...rchaeology.htm

White Fox · #28 (**permalink**) 06-30-2008, 11:12 AM

This "suicide attempt" is failing then...

SpankyTheWhale · #29 (**permalink**) 06-30-2008, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by brother

i think the truth turn up side down here
* israel is a terrorist country
*arab and palestinian want to exist in peace , There are countless concessions arab has made to this end.
* hezbollah exist in forest and fields , and israel can not discover thier fighters in fields then israel target civilens , and the proof about this is huge amount of killed civilens people , and small number of dead fighters.
and just tell me why israel damaged the bridge and streets and hosptial ?
why israel filled lebanon in cluster bombs ?
* hezbollah did not target mainly civilians , hezbollah mainly target isreali arms ,if you listen to hezbollah leader (hasan nasrollah) he said that hezbollah can target civilians mainly but hezbollah target mainly the arms , and this leader is not lying , dont you forget that Israeli people trust in hasan nasrollah more than their leader .

Yes, What you said is EXACTLY "truth turn upside down."

Sunni Man · #30 (**permalink**) 06-30-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by brother

i think the truth turn up side down here
* israel is a terrorist country
*arab and palestinian want to exist in peace , There are countless concessions arab has made to this end.
* hezbollah exist in forest and fields , and israel can not discover thier fighters in fields then israel target civilens , and the proof about this is huge amount of killed civilens people , and small number of dead fighters.
and just tell me why israel damaged the bridge and streets and hosptial ?
why israel filled lebanon in cluster bombs ?
* hezbollah did not target mainly civilians , hezbollah mainly target isreali arms ,if you listen to hezbollah leader (hasan nasrollah) he said that hezbollah can target civilians mainly but hezbollah target mainly the arms , and this leader is not lying , dont you forget that Israeli people trust in hasan nasrollah more than their leader .

You are telling the TRUTH brother.

But the Zionist lovers here don't want to hear the Truth.

They would rather beileve the lies of Israel.

That way they don't have to think!!

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