"Sharon" and the State of "Israel"
The nemesis of a Jewish representation

Upon the meeting of President George W. Bush and "Israeli" Prime Minister Sharon
on April 14, at the White House, Washington DC,
Orthodox Jews will be demonstrating in front of the White House, to proclaim and
clearly state that: Sharon and the State of "Israel" are illegitimate and they
do not represent the Jewish people.


Date: Wednesday April 14, 2004
Place: White House, Lafayette Park
Time: 12:00 PM


Let it be known that:

The State of "Israel" does not represent the voice of Judaism and/or the Jewish
people. The Torah clearly forbids the formation of a State, for the Jewish
people, in their time of exile.

The Torah forbids stealing land, subjugating and oppressing a people etc.

The root cause of the endless bloodshed and suffering in the Holy Land is
Zionism and the State of "Israel".

The root cause for the continual rise of worldwide anti-Semitism is Zionism and
the State of "Israel".

The Jewish people have been living in Muslim countries, including Palestine, in
peace and harmony with their Arab neighbors, until the advent of Zionism.

True to the above and for many other reasons, the rabbinic authorities
universally, have vehemently opposed the State of "Israel" since the time of its
inception.

Consequently, Sharon has no legitimacy to be the representative of the Jewish
people.

The only working solution to a true and lasting peace is the total dismantling
of this illegitimate State of "Israel" - a transformation to a Palestinian rule.
Any other of the countless proposals for peace, whereby the State of "Israel"
would continue to exist, is futile. As the Torah states "why are you violating
the words of G-d, it will not be successful" (Numbers, 14: 41).

Our fervent prayer to G-d is, for this transition from the State of "Israel" to
a Palestinian State, to transpire, speedily and peacefully, without any further
suffering and bloodshed. Under this new Palestinian rule, we will once again,
G-d willing, be able live side by side, Jew and Arab, in brotherhood.


Neturei Karta International
www.nkusa.org
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004

it is totaly beyond a religious thing now. The people who wanted to take back Israel in the first place are the radical jews known as the Zionist, which Sharon is a part of. The majority of jews believe that they deserve being removed from the land and that they are only ment to fully return when the messiah comes and leds them back to the land.

The hatred however goes far beyond religion anymore. It is extreme racism now honestly. Think of the civil rights movement in the US and the hatred of Blacks, now multiply that about 100 times and have it coming from both sides and you have the Israeli/Palistinian conflict.

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Like I expressed in another thread:

1. Israel as a state is applying state oppression to not only Palestinians but also Israeli Arabs,Druzes,Christians and Israeli Jews.

2. The reaction from the Islamic groups(whether Sunni or Shiah) and Secular groups(Fatah and SSNP and others) are not appropiate. Using suicide bombing is against the Islamic belief and immoral.

The only way is for the Israeli Jews to vote out Ariel Sharon and eventually merge with Palestine. Then to change Palestine into a universalist state that would include all ! This is what I think the Anti-Zionist Jews from the above organization si trying to do so Jews and Muslims will stop fighting each other and since there are Arab Christians they would also be included as representatives of Christianity.

I think Sharon will eventually screw up bad enough to get himself out of office. In fact, he almost did already. If i am not mistaken though he came close to losing the last election.

The christian population there is not very large, hard to point too much to that. The holy land means a lot more to Jews and Muslims than it does to Christians, it is merely symbolic place for christians, whereas it is a neccesity for jews and muslims.

what was the other thread by the way? i havn't been around here long. I've done a bit of research on the conflict, so I always enjoy seeing what others think

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I hope this shows up:

http://www.politicalforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=593