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Israel is democratic, but also it is the ONLY Jewish state in the world. There are numerous Buddhist Nations, dozens of Muslim nations, maybe more then 30 Christian states. Only one Jewish state.
By allowing gentiles (mainly Muslim Arabs that smuggle through the border) to just marry any Jew there and then bore 10 babies like they do in Muslim countries then believe me, in 10 years, Israel will no longer be a Jewish State. Muslim Arabs will become the majority, vote for the most Parliament Members, and eventually their own Prime Minister. Jews will become a minority as they always been for the past 2000 years. These laws are restrictive, but I doubt they are done out of malice or out of the assumption that "Jews are better then everyone" which is untrue. I believe it is done more out of necessity. |
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Preservation of race, how 1935-ish of you. If you were a white Christian dude, you'd be labeled as a bigot by now. Luckily for you, you aren't and we tolerate it. Why? Because Jewish preservation of race is entiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirely different than white preservation of race. I hate double standards. |
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First, on the issue of "marrying a Cohen." The Kohanim were servants of the Temple. As such they are subjedct to a much different [and more stringent] set of rules then non Kohanim. While this apparently strikes you as racist, it is only so if you consider the fact that Catholic priests may not marry to be sexist. All religions have their rules and ways of life. Jews are no exception.
There is no such thing as a "genetically pure Jew." Jews are not, nor have they ever been a unique race. They are an ethnicity, and they are a religion. these two things are distinct yet are also closely entwined. It is hard for outsiders to understand. Never - the - less, it is as it is. Also, you misunderstand the concepts you are discussing. Kohanim are not "elite" in any sense of the word. They had more responsibiliuties than any other Jews but that is an onus, not a pleasure. they were not kings or princes. Then, to take your apparent ignorance and combine it with an analogy comparing the precepts of the Jewish religion to Nazi policy is almost beyond words. I would suggest, as kindly as I can, that you stary bu picking up a good objective book As for the couple you are discussing, they can marry, just not in a religious Jewish ceremony. They can do as thousands of other Jewish [and non-Jewish] Israelis dfo every year: Jump on the ferry to Cyprus where they can get married in any manner they choose...those marriages are just as legal as the religious ones performed within Israel. Within Israel, all marriages [and other facets of civil life] are the responsibility of the individuals' religion. If a Muslim wants to marry, they need to do it according to shar'ia, etc. Israel is a secular state. However, during the years leading up to its formal REestablishement, the secular Zionists could only bring the religiopus Jews to the table by m,aking concessions. Hence, civil matters are the province of the clergy. All other matters are secular. How could any adult ever equate a concession to the religious right as "Nazi like?" |
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You are referring to the "get." The "get" is a divorce decree. In Jewish communities throughout the world, men are the ones with the options. Why? Judisaim started in the Mid-East desert. Jews were atribal soiciety and as such were extremely patriarchal.
' For Jewish women today, whose husbands refusse to comply, there are ways to obtain it. I won't get ijnto details but let;s just say that here in NYC there are groups of Jrews who love to vent their aggression on such men. If societal pressurer [ostracism, etc.], financial rulings, and the such doi not work...Recalcitrant men usually think differently wghen faced with a dozen angry men in their face. As for your warm tidings to the dullard who compared Jewish religious law with Nazi racial purity dogma, I will reserve comment. |
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Shalom. |
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The whole thing wouldn't even bother me that much if it wasn't so that Israel is so anti racism toward the outside world. I don't want to even begin discussing the number of times Israel has accused non racist nations of alleged racism, including France. Well, all I can say is, look at the mirror. |
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but there are allways 2 sides to a story..:
i dont like the way the wemon rights are used in this country.....but the problem is its difficult to face the orthodocks jews here...... the rabbis and orthodocks are the poison of this country,we (religios and non-religious) in this country just choose to ignore the hateret thats coming out of thier mouth ,and so does our goverment...btw......ur case of some1's last name...is ridiculos and couldnt have happend in israel,a democratic state....i read the haaretz,never have i saw that case....we are not even close to control over america,america is controling us,(its wrong only when her intrests are not ours)america controls us!.........there are a lot of problems in this country,and i am completely against the rabbis,who think they still live in the time of david and goliath......but i read the news all the time,and i saw that america has many problems of her own.....the fact,that the twins towers victims or those who got caught in the buildings,were treated quickly and the fireman and cops helped to save thousands of people....but in poor new orleans......it took ur president, 5 days to organize a rescue search........some afro americans in there belived that the whites are organizing an ethnic murdering.......belive me.....trying to blame us isnt helpful........look at the countries around us!when a woman walks out without something to cover her face,she is thrown to prison,or even executed! and i say again......the case u mentioned couldnt have happend...trust me....i live here.........a democratic state cant let something like that happens.....about the divorce.........people with my opinions are fighting it for years....that's all i can say |
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