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Old 07-04-2009, 02:37 PM
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And in that regards, accepting the U.S. military's right, Pakistan's military right, Australia's military right, Turkey's military right, and Iran's military right to protect each of their citizens is racist as well?



My, my, you are quite the anarchist who likes to skew things.
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Every state can defend themselves, but when it is the Jewish state, they can not.


Yeah, that's not Anti-Jewish sentiment at all......
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Old 07-04-2009, 02:42 PM
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The question is: Are IDF officers exempt from the same courts and laws by virtue of being Jewish?
Do you realize how many leaders, politicians, and military commanders are dodging those same courts around the world right now?

That's the whole deal with being balanced and fair.

C'mon, what about Russia killing 100,000 Chechnyans?
Sudan?
the Philippines?


I never hear anyone condemning every other brutal military campaign in the same way the IDF is smeared sometimes. Even the U.S.

I see much worse condemnation, especially on this site, of the IDFs actions than the U.S. army's.
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Err... you are. Since you would seek protection for the IDF from normal moral norms (and international law) based on their race.
I do not seek 'protection' for the IDF because they do their job, aka defending their Country. As would Germany, Russia, Iran...and any other Country. Try what Hamas is doing to any other Country in the world, and then tell me again that what I say is racism...simply because I agree with the IDF's right to defend their homeland, which has been under attack even after giving and giving and giving some more. And yes, that is why I am saying that the Jews are being made perfect scapegoats, because while you are whining about Palestinian children being used as human shields, you conveniently forget who put them there...while being proud of doing so.
Defend what is right, not what is popular at any given moment. And please don't tell me that Jews aren't the subject of hate T/O the world.
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And mankind has blamed the Jews ever since...
People have been blaming the Jews long before the Holocaust.


I'm talking, before Jesus of Nazareth was even born, Pagans were blaming Jews.
Then for Jesus' crucifixion, then the plague, then a ton of other things just went from there.

some people just like to displace and put blame on other ethnic groups. For some reason Jews are one of their most favorite.
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Every state can defend themselves, but when it is the Jewish state, they can not.


Yeah, that's not Anti-Jewish sentiment at all......
Do I really have to explain the concept of sarcasm to you?
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Snapple,

Your comment in post 72 is akin to suggesting that a robber, when caught in the act by the owner, has a legitimate claim to respond to subsequent attacks on the owner on the grounds that the owner is attempting to rightly reclaim the goods stolen from him.
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...Or that the Nazis had a legitimate clainm to defend themselves against the Jews during WW2....
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...Or that the racist regime in South Africa had a legitmate right to defend themselves against black South Africans during apartheid...
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That is how absurd your assertion is that Israel is defending itself. Israel is an illegal settler state that is the aggressor
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