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    Yemen's factions aren't strictly divided between Shia and Sunni.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/02/op...-it-alone.html

    Yemen Can't Do It Alone

    By IBRAHIM SHARQIEH


    During a recent visit to Yemen, I was sitting in a cafe in Sana when we suddenly experienced a power outage. I asked the waiter what happened, and he replied: “Saleh’s men keep attacking the main power plant in Mareb to disrupt life in Sana. Saleh is still working against the revolution. He won’t give up.”

    Regardless of the real causes of the outage, the waiter’s explanation reflected a general sense that the uprising against former President Ali Abdullah Saleh and his aides is far from over.

    Officially, the uprising, which was inspired by the Arab Spring and led to hundreds of deaths, ended last February when the former vice president, Abed Rabbu Mansour Hadi, was installed as president. But many Yemenis do not believe that Saleh has entirely exited the political scene after 33 years of authoritarian rule over the poor, deeply divided country.

    Some progress has been made under the new president. By and large, change and uprising in Yemen are proceeding on parallel tracks, and unless the international community provides Yemen with serious support these tracks may collide — with dire domestic and regional consequences.

    Some Yemenis have blamed the opposition for signing the power transfer deal that removed Saleh from power without insisting on making his immunity conditional on his retirement from political activity. The terms of immunity allow Saleh to exercise politics in any capacity he wishes other than the presidency, while also completely shielding him from prosecution. Saleh still serves as president of his General People’s Congress party, which makes many Yemenis nervous about his plans.

    “He is like a ghost,” my waiter said. “You don’t see him but you certainly feel his presence.”

    Young revolutionaries fear their uprising has not yet achieved its goals. Six months since the signing of the power transfer deal, there are still thousands of tents in Sana’s Change Square. Protesters continue pressing their demands as they have for months.

    A revolutionary culture permeates the area, with political slogans, leaflets, music and youths discussing politics around the clock. Almost all political parties are represented at information centers in the square — liberals, Islamists, socialists and secularists. Even the Houthis, a militant rebel group that has fought six wars against the central government, still operate an information center tent called “Shabab al-Somoud” (Steadfast Youth).

    Preparing for what seems to be a long stay in Change Square, the Nobel Prize laureate Tawakkol Karman upgraded her tent to accommodate her family, a secretary and a space to meet visitors. The “Nobel Tent” makes a blunt statement: The Yemeni uprising is no longer a fully domestic affair but has a global dimension and will continue until the uprising’s objectives have been fully met.

    Yemen’s transition, unlike others in the region, was met with unanimous support from the international community, which has positioned Hadi strongly to deal with the multiple challenges he faces. Indeed, President Obama’s recent threat to freeze the assets of “those trying to disrupt the political transition” sent a clear message to Hadi’s rivals about the strong American stance on Yemen.

    Hadi has used this robust international support to change the balance of power in his country. He succeeded in sidelining General Mohammed Saleh al-Ahmar, the air force chief and Saleh’s half brother, as well as Tareq Saleh, a commander of a powerful brigade in Sana and Saleh’s nephew, significantly boosting the president’s power and popularity.

    The partnership between Hadi and the U.S. administration undoubtedly extends to the fight against Al Qaeda. For Hadi, defeating the group is crucial for several reasons. He needs to distance himself from his predecessor by proving his sincerity about routing Al Qaeda. This will earn him the trust of the international community. Furthermore, winning the war against Al Qaeda will pave the way for restoring security and stability in Yemen.

    Hadi has thus far been successful in restoring order in the city of Louder, and the army says it now controls most of Zinjibar, a known Qaeda stronghold. But the suicide bombing at a military parade rehearsal in Sana on May 21, which killed nearly 100 soldiers, highlights Al Qaeda’s effort to shift the battleground from the south to Sana.

    Although these successes are important, they will not transform Yemen into a stable, functioning nation. It will take more than defeating Al Qaeda and sidelining Saleh’s allies for Hadi to win the hearts and minds of Yemenis.

    Above all, Hadi must quickly deliver desperately needed services to the people. Yemen is on the verge of a humanitarian crisis, exacerbated by recent clashes, and aid must be delivered before it is too late. In my discussions with tribal members, “looming starvation” was mentioned several times.

    In addition, power outages happen many times a day, complicating attempts at economic recovery and stalling efforts to resume normal daily life. Frustrated by the frequency of power outages, it is no surprise that the waiter I spoke to believes that Saleh’s men are behind these disruptions. Although it is not required under the power transfer agreement, Saleh’s departure to another country could restore some needed credibility to the political process in Yemen.

    Yemen’s problems can be solved, but the international aid community must step in immediately if the country is to stave off a looming disaster.
    Last edited by Margot; Jun 02 2012 at 08:40 AM.

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    I can't even imagine a solution for Yemen.

    I never realized that Yemen has 200 islands.

    300 militants of al-Shabab arrives in Yemen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Margot View Post
    Nope.... EVERYBODY has guns in Yemen and they are smuggled from Somalia, Sudan, the US, Ertria.

    Owning guns is a cultural must.

    Outside the major cities there are many warlords... Plus, you have the Al Houthis in the north... al Qaeda and aL Shaabab. You have the oil workers and the factory workers ..

    Poverty is a huge problem, and illiteracy. Its always been wild place.

    I have always wanted to go to Yemen.. so I have been following their story for decades.

    All the oil concessions are in the south... Chinese are the biggest player. Pipelines have been sabotaged.

    So as poor as they are, it just keeps worse.

    The US isn't behind it.. Our interest in Yemen is to keep them out of Saudi Arabia.


    http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middl...y-about-unrest
    Perhaps you should of started your post wioth once upon a time..... again bollocks, its your nation thats murdering the democracally majoirity demonstrsation against the US puppets!
    Prasy tell...what part of Al queda isn't American? They used them in Libya, they are now using them in Syria.....not to mention Pakestan and Yemen...do you think we are all stupid?
    American dro9nes.... commtiting war crimes and acts of war against unarmed men women and children.l

    There is only one word to decrible your degenarates behaviour but those degenerates are your leaders! But I'd be banned again.

    So suffice it to say..... your national leaders are criminals at best, but AIPAC deserve to be incarcerated with them.

    Aaah..... American democracy! Bollocks!

    Regards
    Highlander

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    Perhaps you should of started your post wioth once upon a time..... again bollocks, its your nation thats murdering the democracally majoirity demonstrsation against the US puppets!
    Prasy tell...what part of Al queda isn't American? They used them in Libya, they are now using them in Syria.....not to mention Pakestan and Yemen...do you think we are all stupid?
    American dro9nes.... commtiting war crimes and acts of war against unarmed men women and children.l

    There is only one word to decrible your degenarates behaviour but those degenerates are your leaders! But I'd be banned again.

    So suffice it to say..... your national leaders are criminals at best, but AIPAC deserve to be incarcerated with them.

    Aaah..... American democracy! Bollocks!

    Regards
    Highlander
    You truly believe that, do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Margot View Post
    You truly believe that, do you?
    ??????? and you don't?

    http://www.sott.net/articles/show/24...-Francis-Boyle

    The facts speak for them selves....... the truth is there for all to see....... but you need to be able to open your eyes and take a moral judgement as to the facts of the matter.

    GUILTY! One and all!

    Obviously ....Torture chambers.......secret prisons......one million Iraqis murdered.....rendition.....gen icide.......most of the world calls it by its name... crimes against humanity! They talk volumes... abu graib.... and no one but the ranks guilty of a crime!
    Depleted uranium killing new born infants..... not top mention the cancers of the parents.

    Even Hitler couldn't stoop as low as your bloody lot!

    Dime bombs on civilians! Aye your lot needs the Hague as did there forebears from the Reich!

    Regards
    Highlander
    Last edited by highlander; Jun 03 2012 at 05:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    ??????? and you don't?

    http://www.sott.net/articles/show/24...-Francis-Boyle

    The facts speak for them selves....... the truth is there for all to see....... but you need to be able to open your eyes and take a moral judgement as to the facts of the matter.

    GUILTY! One and all!

    Obviously ....Torture chambers.......secret prisons......one million Iraqis murdered.....rendition.....gen icide.......most of the world calls it by its name... crimes against humanity! They talk volumes... abu graib.... and no one but the ranks guilty of a crime!
    Depleted uranium killing new born infants..... not top mention the cancers of the parents.

    Even Hitler couldn't stoop as low as your bloody lot!

    Dime bombs on civilians! Aye your lot needs the Hague as did there forebears from the Reich!

    Regards
    Highlander
    We are talking about Yemen, not Iraq.

    You know Yemen has been the Republic of Yemen since 1990.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    ??????? and you don't?

    http://www.sott.net/articles/show/24...-Francis-Boyle

    The facts speak for them selves....... the truth is there for all to see....... but you need to be able to open your eyes and take a moral judgement as to the facts of the matter.

    GUILTY! One and all!

    Obviously ....Torture chambers.......secret prisons......one million Iraqis murdered.....rendition.....gen icide.......most of the world calls it by its name... crimes against humanity! They talk volumes... abu graib.... and no one but the ranks guilty of a crime!
    Depleted uranium killing new born infants..... not top mention the cancers of the parents.

    Even Hitler couldn't stoop as low as your bloody lot!

    Dime bombs on civilians! Aye your lot needs the Hague as did there forebears from the Reich!

    Regards
    Highlander
    We are talking about Yemen, not Iraq.

    You know Yemen has been the Republic of Yemen since 1990.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Margot View Post
    Approximately 53% of Yemenis are Sunnis, while 45% are Zaydi Shias..

    Religion in Yemen consists primarily of two principal Islamic religious groups; 53% of the Muslim population is Sunni[65] and 45% is Shiite according to the UNHCR.[65][66] Sunnis are primarily Shafi'i but also include significant groups of Malikis and Hanbalis. Shi'is are primarily Zaidis and also have significant minorities of Twelver Shias[67] and Musta'ali Western Isma'ili Shias (see Shia Population of the Middle
    in Bahrain around 70% shias , in your country about 7% , truth is that you want keep your shias as a slaves and out of power the Eastern Province
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    Quote Originally Posted by Margot View Post
    We are talking about Yemen, not Iraq.

    You know Yemen has been the Republic of Yemen since 1990.
    It may have passed you.... but its demonstrator that are being murdered by your puppets. The demonstrators are demonstrating against your lot and are demanding justice and democracy, and to stop the American drone's which destroy the very foundations of a civilised society.

    Again something totally alien to you and yours AIPAC leaders.

    I did notice you didn't make an attempt to defend the criminal behaviour of your AIPAC elected leaders.

    So you have some saving grace.

    Regards
    Highlander

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