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    Yemen: Shia rebels vs. government forces: which side´ll finally take over?
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8261867.stm
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8239374.stm?lsf
    The roots of Yemen's current civil conflict, in which the government is trying to put down a localised but potent rebellion, lie in the Cold War regional politics of the 1960s.

    Then, Egyptian-backed army officers brought an end to Yemen's 1,000-year Shia Imamate and established the modern Yemeni republic.

    Republican troops seized control of Yemen's capital, Sanaa, in 1962, while the imam fled to the northern mountains, where he mounted a spirited counter-offensive from the same territory where the fighting is happening today.

    ...Then, as now, a well-equipped army in Sanaa deployed air power and superior military hardware against the rebels in the Saada region but for five years republican forces failed to defeat the mountain guerrillas.
    Then, as now, regional dynamics inflamed local tensions inside Yemen, with Saudi Arabia and Jordan backing Yemen's imam against thousands of Egyptian troops barracked in Sanaa....

    ...The rebels accuse President Saleh of playing divide-and-rule politics by promoting Sunni Salafi institutes while restricting the activities of a Zaydi Shia revivalist movement, known as the Believing Youth...

    ...Increasing numbers of Somali refugees and a rapidly growing domestic population place escalating strain on Yemen's fragile resources...
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    Granny says, "Dat's right, Now dat we got Saleh outta the way, Obama goin' after dem terrorists, he gonna give `em a smack-down...

    U.S. escalates clandestine war in Yemen
    May 16, 2012 | WASHINGTON -- In an escalation of America’s clandestine war in Yemen, a small contingent of U.S. troops is providing targeting data for Yemeni airstrikes as government forces battle to dislodge Al Qaeda militants and other insurgents in the country’s restive south, U.S. and Yemeni officials said.
    Operating from a Yemeni base, at least 20 U.S. special operations troops have used satellite imagery, drone video, eavesdropping systems and other technical means to help pinpoint targets for an offensive that intensified this week, said U.S. and Yemeni officials who asked not to be identified talking about the sensitive operation. The U.S. forces also advised Yemeni military commanders on where and when to deploy their troops, two senior Obama administration officials said. The U.S. contingent is expected to grow, a senior military official said. The Obama administration’s direct military role in Yemen is more extensive than previously reported and represents a deepening involvement in the nation’s growing conflict.

    The military and CIA are coordinating a separate but related campaign of airstrikes against members of the group Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, which U.S. intelligence officials say poses the greatest threat to America. The Yemen-based group was implicated this month in a failed effort to put a suicide bomber on a U.S.-bound airliner, the latest of several failed bombing attempts. John Brennan, White House counter-terrorism advisor, flew to Yemen last weekend to meet its new president, Abed Rabbo Mansour Hadi. The administration considers Hadi, who took office in February, an ally and is seeking to support a political transition toward democracy.

    U.S. officials remain wary of being drawn into Yemen’s factional political struggles, but they expressed confidence in Hadi. "There are ways of checking their homework," a senior defense official said of the Yemeni government. "They’ve been trusted partners." In a show of support for Hadi’s government, President Obama issued an executive order Wednesday giving the Treasury Department authority to freeze U.S. assets of those who "threaten the peace, security and stability" of Yemen. The order, which does not name any individual, is meant to discourage political meddling by those still loyal to the nation’s former dictator, officials said.

    U.S. special operations troops were withdrawn from Yemen last year amid the violent protests that toppled Hadi’s predecessor, Ali Abdullah Saleh, but Pentagon officials disclosed last week that they had returned. The officials described the deployment as a limited training mission for Yemeni security units fighting Al Qaeda, similar to past efforts. Once the U.S. forces arrived, however, Hadi was more willing than Saleh to let the Americans work directly with Yemeni military forces outside the capital, Sana, officials said. The current military offensive coincides with an increase in U.S. military and CIA airstrikes against Al Qaeda leaders in Yemen. They have relied, in part, on intelligence gathered by CIA operatives and contractors in the contested tribal areas, according to a U.S. source with knowledge of the secret operation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litwin View Post
    Yemen: Shia rebels vs. government forces: which side´ll finally take over?
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8261867.stm
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8239374.stm?lsf
    The roots of Yemen's current civil conflict, in which the government is trying to put down a localised but potent rebellion, lie in the Cold War regional politics of the 1960s.

    Then, Egyptian-backed army officers brought an end to Yemen's 1,000-year Shia Imamate and established the modern Yemeni republic.

    Republican troops seized control of Yemen's capital, Sanaa, in 1962, while the imam fled to the northern mountains, where he mounted a spirited counter-offensive from the same territory where the fighting is happening today.

    ...Then, as now, a well-equipped army in Sanaa deployed air power and superior military hardware against the rebels in the Saada region but for five years republican forces failed to defeat the mountain guerrillas.
    Then, as now, regional dynamics inflamed local tensions inside Yemen, with Saudi Arabia and Jordan backing Yemen's imam against thousands of Egyptian troops barracked in Sanaa....

    ...The rebels accuse President Saleh of playing divide-and-rule politics by promoting Sunni Salafi institutes while restricting the activities of a Zaydi Shia revivalist movement, known as the Believing Youth...

    ...Increasing numbers of Somali refugees and a rapidly growing domestic population place escalating strain on Yemen's fragile resources...
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    That was back in the day when the communists were fighting the royalist in Yemen.. and Egypt was backing the communists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Margot View Post
    That was back in the day when the communists were fighting the royalist in Yemen.. and Egypt was backing the communists.
    Communists with all girls in school , secular , etc are much better option then your wahabi model
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    Quote Originally Posted by litwin View Post
    Communists with all girls in school , secular , etc are much better option then your wahabi model
    Yemen has always been poor and troubled.. That's why the Saudis send them aid and build universities for them. Yemen really has never been stable enough to grow or maintain their oil business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Margot View Post
    Yemen has always been poor and troubled.. That's why the Saudis send them aid and build universities for them. Yemen really has never been stable enough to grow or maintain their oil business.
    your do nothing for free, whats about your main export(wahhabism)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by litwin View Post
    your do nothing for free, whats about your main export(wahhabism)?
    Meaning what/ I am not a Saudi.

    The Saudis would like to see Yemen stable and prosperous.. for the purpose of peace in the region. That's why they have funded education in Yemen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Margot View Post
    Meaning what/ I am not a Saudi.

    The Saudis would like to see Yemen stable and prosperous.. for the purpose of peace in the region. That's why they have funded education in Yemen.
    this is worst one, a radical Wahhabi religious education in a poor country? The Tickling Bomb .... can it be worst?


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    By the late 1980's a majority of schools had affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood, with connections to Abd al-Majid al-Zandani of the al-Islah party, or had fallen under the influence of traditional Wahabism. The Yemeni government had little direct control religious education.



    Although the government has made some headway in gaining control of religious schools, religious education in Yemen remains largely decentralized and heavily financed by foreign sources. This "self-management" system allows for a diversity of religious ideologies and institutions, but also continues to leave the door open to fundamentalists.

    Today, for example, there a number of private universities in Yemen, and one among them is al-Iman (the Belief) University run by Abd al-Majid al-Zadani, who is accused of terrorist activities and wanted by authorities in the U.S. and Great Britain. Some students have accused the University of being involved in the deaths of American doctors and preachers on December 31, 2002 and of the death of Jar Allah Omar, one of the top leaders of the Socialist Party in Yemen, on December 28, 2002.

    The Zaydi have the Institute of Unity & Justice (al-Adl wa al-Tawhid), which is managed by al-Huthi studies and promotes the Mu'tzalite and Zaydi traditional theological approach. Among the Zaydi traditional colleges there is the famous al-Nahriyn Mosque of Shaykh Hamud b. Attas, a supporter of the ruling government in Sanaa, and there is the al-Murtadhaa b. al-Mahdhur Center and the Abdullah Ibn Masud School in Sa'ada that teach a Zaydi curriculum.

    Also in Sa'ada there is a Wahhabi institute, al-Dammaj Institute, of Shaykh Maqbal b. Hadi al-Wad'i, that has many students from Yemen and abroad. In Maarab there is the Maarab Institute managed by Abu al-Hassan Al Maarabi, who is an Egyptian Wahhabi. These two Centers represent traditional Wahabi fundamentalist institutes in Yemen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by litwin View Post
    this is worst one, a radical religious education for en poor country? The Tickling Bomb .... can it be worst?
    LOLOL.. You assume alot..

    Most of the universities they have set up in Yemen are about hospitality service and culinary schools.

    They are teaching Hotel mgmt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Margot View Post
    LOLOL.. You assume alot..

    Most of the universities they have set up in Yemen are about hospitality service and culinary schools.

    They are teaching Hotel mgmt.
    you can take a "boy " out of wahhabi-land but you can not take wahhabism out of a boy... , you can not just teach with out brain wash those poor idiots , ask the Bosniaks about your "culinary schools", which are well known terrorist centers
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