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  1. Default The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

    There's lots of clear evidence of fakery in the footage of the Apollo missions. Here's one of the clearest anomalies I've seen.

    Watch how the corner of Collins' jacket moves in this clip.
    (4:10 time mark)

    Here's another video that shows the footage-
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fqdB1b53jc"]YouTube - ‪Apollo_11__The_TV_Tran smission_Conspiracy_Theorists_ Hate_.mp4‬‏[/ame]
    (00:50 time mark)

    The corner of Collins' jacket swings back and forth the way it would in gravity.

    At the 00:08 time mark in this clip watch what happens.
    [ame="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TejsnPThmd4"]YouTube - ‪Discovery Crew Enters International Space Station‬‏[/ame]

    The astronaut with the jacket pulls her arm up and down twice. The corner flops up and down. This is clearly zero-G as the corner has no tendency to go downward. There is no up or down.

    In the clip that shows Collins the jacket corner has a clear tendency to go downward.

    This guy starts to run fast on the treadmill at around the 00:14 time mark.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTNGNW5Evs4"]YouTube - ‪ISS space station treadmill running‬‏[/ame]

    The guy on the far left at the start of this video is wearing a jacket.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0cxuSxOBUA"]YouTube - ‪treadmill dance parody‬‏[/ame]

    Watch the corners of his jacket. Both his and those of the guy in the first video behave exactly the way Collins' jacket corner behaves.

    Watch this woman's hair at the 00:40 time mark.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fUGSVPOGn8"]YouTube - ‪Treadmill Knockout workout!!!‬‏[/ame]

    It also behaves exactly the same way that Collins' jacket corner behaves. It has a clear tendency to go down.

    This woman is jogging in zero-G. Here hair flops up and down but there's clearly no gravity; her hair has no tendency to go downward.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbfX2vQaVew"]YouTube - ‪Sunita Williams marathon‬‏[/ame]

    Here she is when she's not running.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrdMuRkwgWE"]YouTube - ‪Suni talked about her long hairs in space‬‏[/ame]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2evMR9PvCk&NR=1"]YouTube - ‪Living in Space - Sunita Williams & Michael Lopez‬‏[/ame]

    There's no tendency to go downward just as there's no tendency for this astronaut's jacket corners to go downward.
    [ame="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TejsnPThmd4"]YouTube - ‪Discovery Crew Enters International Space Station‬‏[/ame]

    When Collins is running or just standing, his jacket corner has a clear tendency to go downward.

    This is the astronaut who was running in zero-G on earth.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0YK-wG35WM"]YouTube - ‪Astronaut Sunita Williams & Mission Commander Michael Lopez‬‏[/ame]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s3FnfXj5Vk&feature=ch annel"]YouTube - ‪Making It Happen-Sunita Williams 1‬‏[/ame]

    That footage of Collins jogging in place was supposed to be halfway to the moon but it was obviously taken in strong gravity.

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    Here's some more evidence.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwE1sNm82Y"]YouTube - ‪Apollo 15 flag waving‬‏[/ame]
    At the 2 minute 35 second mark of the video the flag is still. When the astronaut goes past it, it starts to move.

    There's an analysis of that here in this three part series.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr76qSQ9ZQQ&feature=Pl ayList&p=41BF9062EF97A674&inde x=0&playnext=1"]YouTube - ‪MoonFaker: The Flags Are Alive. PART 1.‬‏[/ame]

    More here...
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW9qcL4LiUg"]YouTube - ‪Initial Apollo 15 Flag Movement‬‏[/ame]

    There's a noticeable difference in the body movements in these two clips.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE"]YouTube - ‪Moon Landing Hoax - Wires Footage‬‏[/ame]

    What I hypothesize is that a fifty percent slow-motion was used in Apollo 11 to simulate lunar gravity. Later, they improved their methods of simulating lunar gravity and started using a combination of slow-motion and support wires. The slow-motion in the later missions might not have been exactly half-speed. It might have been sixty five or seventy percent of natural speed. It looked better but it was inconsistent with Apollo 11 footage. The inconsistency is apparent.

    At around the 21 minute mark of this video the above footage from Apollo 11 can be seen played at double speed.
    [ame="http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=41351265650817 57736"]Man didnt land on the moon[/ame]

    It can also be seen in this video at around the 30 minute 40 second mark.

    (The above video "A funny thing happened on the way to the moon" keeps going on and off-line. If the above link is dead, click here)

    It looks just like movement in earth gravity.
    When the footage from this clip is doubled, the movements look unnaturally fast.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE"]YouTube - ‪Moon Landing Hoax - Wires Footage‬‏[/ame]

    Here it is doubled.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G29WT2_y1-E"]YouTube - ‪Jumping on the moon at double speed‬‏[/ame]

    When the Apollo 11 footage is doubled, the movements look natural. This makes it very clear that they used a simple fifty percent slow-motion to simulate lunar gravity in Apollo 11 and a faster slow-motion (around 67 percent according to Jarrah White's calculations)...
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW31fOWzY-E"]YouTube - ‪MoonFaker: The Penny Drops. PART 1‬‏[/ame]

    ...combined with wire supports in the later missions.
    If you look at the acceleration of the object that falls from the astronaut's backpack and the acceleration of the hammer and feather that fall, it's apparent that there's a difference in the way gravity affects the objects.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C5_dOEyAfk"]YouTube - ‪Feather & Hammer Drop on Moon‬‏[/ame]

    Evidently the slow-motion speed is different.

    There is no blast crater under the lander.

    That is discussed in this five part video series.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEQNZQdJFtI"]YouTube - ‪MoonFaker: No Crater. PART 1‬‏[/ame]

    Look at the size of the reflection of the sun in the astronaut's visor at the beginning of this video.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE"]YouTube - ‪Moon Landing Hoax - Wires Footage‬‏[/ame]

    Now look at the reflection of the sun in the visor in the picture at the top of this page.

    It's pretty clear that the reflection in the Apollo astronaut's visor is that of a big light. Here's an article about that.

    At bottom of this page there's a picture of the astronaut's visor that has in it the reflection of what looks like some kind of studio light.

    The moon rocks are often presented as proof the missions were real. There are plausible explanations that would explain them.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSIlgQhUi9A"]YouTube - ‪MoonFaker: Exhibit D. PART 5.‬‏[/ame]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AQQHTjeMkA"]YouTube - ‪MoonFaker: Rocks & Crocks. PART 1.‬‏[/ame]


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    People say the Soviets would have snitched. There are explanations for that too:

    Well, why did they keep faking the Apollo flights, I still don't understand. Did the Soviet Union know it was faked? Why did they keep shut up if they knew it was faked? 'Cause a lot of people would think they kept the moon race going to prove the U.S. was better than the Soviet Union. If the Soviet Union knew, why did they let the U.S. get away with this?
    Well, I'll tell you - at the highest levels there is a coalition between governments. In other words, the Soviets said, if you won't tell on us - and they faked most of their space exploration flights - we won't tell on you. It's as simple as that. See, what Apollo is, is the beginning of the end of the ability of the government to hoodwink and bamboozle and manipulate the people. More and more people are becoming aware in the U.S. that the government is totally and completely public enemy number one.

    The Soviets, with their own competing moon program and an intense economic and political and military rivalry with the USA, could be expected to have cried foul if the USA tried to fake a Moon landing. Theorist Ralph Rene responds that shortly after the alleged Moon landings, the USA silently started shipping hundreds of thousands of tons of grain as humanitarian aid to the allegedly starving USSR. He views this as evidence of a cover-up, the grain being the price of silence. (The Soviet Union in fact had its own Moon program).

    Noam Chomsky's analysis of the cold war-
    On the domestic front, the Cold War helped the Soviet Union entrench its military-bureaucratic ruling class in power, and it gave the US a way to compel its population to subsidise high-tech industry. It isn't easy to sell all that to the domestic populations. The technique used was the old stand-by-fear of a great enemy.

    It someone were to make a deathbed statement saying the moon missions were faked, the press would never report it as the press is controlled.

    Also, it would be downright dangerous for someone to come forward. Look what happened to these guys.

    Here are some videos.

    What Happened on the Moon" (documentary)

    Was it Only a Paper Moon? (documentary)
    (8 parts)

    Here are some articles.

    (Wagging the Moondoggie)

    The astronauts look pretty nervous at the press conference.

    Here's a link to the entire conference.

    This keeps going on and offline so if this link is dead, try googling "Apollo 11 press conference".

    Their behavior look pretty suspicious here too. It begins in the second half of the video.


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    The main reason they had to fake it was probably space radiation. Here are some articles and videos I've found on the subject.

    There is an old saying that "A liar needs a good memory". Nowhere is this more true than in the Apollo program. NASA tell lies to cover up previous lies, and other discrepancies uncovered by people investigating the Moon landings. Altering previous data, removing photographs, and retracting statements made, only re-enforces the evidence that NASA are on the run, and being forced into a corner to which they cannot escape. The actions of those under investigation makes the investigator more aware they are bluffing. The longer that person, or persons, who make the extravagant claims continue, the more lies they have to tell in order to counteract it, until it reaches the point where it becomes ridiculous. That point was passed in July 1999, when NASA officials were questioned about the Moon landings on television. They dodged the all important questions like a drifter dodges the heat.
    Many Apollo astronauts have long since died, as to have many of the original NASA officials involved in the scam, consequently current officials, who know that Apollo was a fake, have not quite got it right when talking openly in public. Perhaps the biggest slip of the tongue was made by NASA Chief Dan Goldin when interviewed by UK TV journalist Sheena McDonald in 1994. He said that mankind cannot venture beyond Earth orbit, 250 miles into space, until they can find a way to overcome the dangers of cosmic radiation. He must have forgot that they supposedly sent 27 astronauts 250,000 miles outside Earth orbit 36 years earlier.

    two sets of radiation data
    To prove his thesis, Rene tries to get certain solar data from NATIONAL
    OCEANIC & ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION, (NOAA) using clever techniques
    disguise his true intentions, [i.e. to get true data on solar flares.] NOAA,
    unfortunately, proved to be as cagey as Rene in dodging the giving out of any
    really good DETAILS on this matter, [you know, where the devil resides.]
    Rene, seeing games being played, deduced that there must be two sets of data,
    one which is sent to scientists on the preferred list, and one sent to the
    likes of Rene as casual strangers. (p.125)

    These two are important

    (23 parts)

    The Chinese space walks were obviously faked in a water tank and NASA's official position is that the Chinese space walks were real.

    The pro-Apollo posters at the forums of both the "Clavius" and "Bad Astronomy" websites tap danced around the evidence that the Chinese space walk was faked because they have to agree with the official US government version and they can't say it was faked without looking silly. Here are the threads. They're hilarious.


    They pretty much destroyed the credibility of those two sites when they didn't seriously address the evidence.

    It's pretty clear that they're government damage-control sites.

    Here's some good research if anyone wants to delve further.

    Here's some more stuff on Clavius and Bad Astronomy and Jay Windley.

    (this explains who Jay Windley is
    http://www.clavius.org/about.html )

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    We'd never hear about it if someone tried to blow the whistle; the governement can find lots of scientists willing to sell out and lie, etc.

    At about the 30 minute mark of this video a scientist says that science fraud is common.

    Scientists at the Rand Corporation say that depleted uranium is safe.

    There are other scientists who say the opposite.

    It's clear that the government can find scientists willing to sell out and lie.

    Here's a scientists who say that it's impossible to get something published in a science journal if it goes against the official version.
    (00:16 time mark)

    This means that if there's a scientist who thinks the rocks didn't come from the moon, he'd have a hard time getting his opinion known.

    If someone tried to blow the whistle, the press would ignore him or her.

    Here's some evidence that it might even be downright dangerous to try to come forward with the truth.

    We are lied to about history.

    Q: Why do prominent astronomers like Sir Bernard Lovell and Patrick Moore support the Moon landings if they were faked?

    A: Scientists and astronomers around the globe know full well that the Moon missions were faked, but rely on NASA to gain access to the vital data beamed back to Earth from the Hubble space telescope. They cannot slag off NASA otherwise NASA would deprive them of this essential information, which they so much require.
    Q: What about the vast number of people involved in Apollo, wouldnít someone have spoken out.

    A: Panís claim there were half a million people involved in the Apollo program, but that includes all the humble engineers working on machine parts in many companies around the globe. So if someone is making a part in some engineering factory in Seattle, and his boss tells him itís for the Apollo spacecraft, is that engineer proof the landings took place? No of course it is not proof, and even if that engineer knew they never made it to the Moon, he would still brag to his friends that he made a part that went to the Moon just to make him feel proud in some way or other. Parts for the Apollo program were made at many different factories around the globe. For example the laser reflector supposedly left on the Moon was manufactured in France. NASA collected the unit from the French company, and that was the last they saw of it. Itís probably stashed away in some archive at Langley, but one things for certain itís not on the Moon. Are those French engineers proof they landed on the Moon? No of course not, as very few, (probably less than 200 people), were actually involved in bringing the whole lot together, so as to minimize what was actually taking place. No need for any of them to speak out because (A) They are 100% patriotic to the USA, and would say nothing that would go against America, even if it were true. (B) They do not need millions of dollars to safeguard their future, as they have already received substantial amounts from NASA just to ďkeep mumĒ. Read comments from people who worked on the Apollo program in the APOLLO FEEDBACK section.

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    It looks like NASA has been faking spacewalks too.

    In these two videos what looks like air bubbles can be seen rising.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38ynHKGzplQ"]YouTube - ‪International Space Station Hoax : Air Bubbles Rise- Space Walks Simulated in A Massive Water Pool‬‏[/ame]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO1cWhD_6Nw"]YouTube - ‪Moon Landing Hoax Apollo16- Air Bubbles Rise As The Astronauts Simulate A Space Walk in A Water Pool‬‏[/ame]

    Go down about a third of the way in this link...

    ...to where it says, "APOLLO 9: Dave scott performs Extra Vehicular Activities LAVA # : LV-1998-00030.mov
    The astronaut is unusually flexible compared to today's shuttle astronauts on EVAs; the Apollo suit does not appear to have bearings at the joints like the space shuttle extra vehicular suits. The experimental thermal samples flutter and follow non-linear curved paths, as if under the influence of or affected by atmospheric drag and turbulence.

    That looks pretty suspicious.

    I've seen long footage of zero-gravity so I don't doubt that they've acually made it into low earth orbit. Maybe they're faking some of this stuff to save money. I wonder if they fake space walks because of micro-meteorites.

    The Chinese obviously faked their spacewalk...
    [ame="http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=NVbBFwdmldA"]YouTube - ‪Proof China Faked Their Spacewalk (Part 2)‬‏[/ame]
    [ame="http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4Z_r38ZDE"]YouTube - ‪About paper and bubbles of ShenzhouVII‬‏[/ame]

    ...and the official NASA version is that the Chinese space walk was real so NASA has no credibility.

    Jarrah White discusses a possible fake spacewalk in this video at the 4:45 time mark.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNP828YIUQo"]YouTube - ‪MoonFaker: Radioactive Anomaly. PART 2.‬‏[/ame]

    He discusses another one in this video at the 7:45 time mark.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U-NGXBIaaA"]YouTube - ‪MoonFaker: Radioactive Anomaly. PART 4.‬‏[/ame]

    It looks like the Soviets may have been doing some faking too.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dPIBSkYO-U"]YouTube - ‪MoonFaker: Radioactive Anomaly. PART 10‬‏[/ame]

    This continues into part 11.

    I watched the whole thing a year or so ago and there is more stuff scattered throughout the series about fakery in earth orbit. I wish I'd saved the time marks.

    If they can fake moon missions and space walks, they may have even faked the unmanned Mars missions.
    Last edited by Scott; Jun 05 2011 at 04:20 AM.

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    Just out of curiosity; what would it take to convince you that we went to the moon? What evidence would prove it to you?

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    So not only were people in on it in the US but people were also in on it in Australia and have said nothing?

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    So not only were people in on it in the US but people were also in on it in Australia and have said nothing?
    Look at the info in post #5. The press is controlled so if anyone were to try to come forward, we'd never hear about it.

    Just out of curiosity; what would it take to convince you that we went to the moon? What evidence would prove it to you?
    I'll know it when I see it. So far I haven't seen any evidence that they went and I've seen a mountain of evidence that they didn't go. Why doesn't someone who thinks they went post some proof that they went and we can talk about whether it's really proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    Look at the info in post #5. The press is controlled so if anyone were to try to come forward, we'd never hear about it.

    I'll know it when I see it. So far I haven't seen any evidence that they went and I've seen a mountain of evidence that they didn't go. Why doesn't someone who thinks they went post some proof that they went and we can talk about whether it's really proof.
    Because you'll say, "they", "it", "them", "all of them", "they are", "it is", either "lying", "faked", "fabricated", "not real". You're what they call an omnibus doubter.

    Why would the astronauts who say they went to the moon lie?

    "I'll know it when I see it."
    What does that mean? Give an example of what would convince you.

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